More on the Johns Hopkins Fact Sheet

Yesterday I started fisking a Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy “Fact Sheet” on the lawsuits against gun manufacturers brought by cities, counties, and individuals. I only had time to do three of the “myths,” but I promised I’d get back to it.

Promise kept.

“Myth: Once the gun leaves the manufacturers’s hands, there is nothing the manufacturer can do about who buys it, or how it is used.

“FACT: In fact, there are many things the manufacturers can do. Gun makers can design their products with built-in safety devices so they can’t be fired by young children or other unauthorized users. Like the makers of most other products, they can play an active oversight role with their dealers. Research shows that many criminals obtain guns that were first sold by a fairly small number of unscrupulous or careless gun dealers. Manufacturers can and should refuse to supply guns to these dealers. They can also train dealers to better identify and discourage illegal gun buyers.”

Uh-huh. I’ve already covered what these people think “built-in safety devices” should do – render a gun unable to shoot. If you have a gun for self-defense, it has to work when you need it. That’s why the police are exempt from these requirements. They want this ostensibly to prevent “young children” from firing a gun accidentally. Yes, this does happen, but let’s look at the realities, shall we?

First: There are an estimated 65,000,000 handguns (just handguns) already in private hands. Any modifications to new guns will have no effect on this existing pool. If guns are as dangerous as we are led to believe, requiring us to modify newly manufactured existing designs to protect young children, then there must be an epidemic of accidental deaths of the young children who are exposed to the threat these guns pose. We’ve been told over the last decade that 10, 11, 12, 13 kids a day are the victims of guns. And this has been swallowed hook, line, and sinker to mean accidental deaths of small children.

“And what about the more than 4,000 children who die in gun-related accidents each year? That’s 11 kids a day. And we’re not talking about crimes, or intentional shootings. We’re talking — or not talking enough — about accidents.” – Jean Hanff Korelitz, What a few good women can do, Salon.com, March 13, 2000.

Not quite.

Let’s define “children” as I must assume The Johns Hopkins Center means – kids too small to know about the dangers of guns, but still able to pull a trigger. Let’s be generous and put that upper limit at, say, 10 years old. (When I was 10 I knew where my father’s guns – and ammo – were, and how to load and unload those guns. I also knew what those guns could do. But for the sake of argument…) I’ll leave the lower limit at zero, as the worry seems to be small kids shooting themselves or other small kids.

According to the Centers for Disease Control WISQARS website in 2000, out of a population of 42,971,230 children 10 years old and below, there were 41 accidental deaths by firearm. In 1999: 32. In 1998: 59. In 1997: 54. In 1996: 51. In 1995: 58. In 1990, as far back as age-specific data goes, there were 105. I’m not going to sit here and say “these numbers are insignificant.” I’m not a heartless bastard no matter what you might think, but I am going to say that trying to attack this problem through forcing gun manufacturers to put new “safety features” on new guns is like trying to kill a mosquito with an icepick. While blindfolded. When the mosquito is in another room. It’s obvious upon reflection that “child safety” cannot be the intent.

And it’s not like the industry hasn’t been addressing this problem. Accidental gun deaths aren’t due to defective weapons, but to unsafe handling and storage. And those aren’t the responsibility of manufacturers, but end users. We don’t need integral trigger locks and magazine disconnects, we need to better educate gun owners and their kids. And by and large the industry and trade associations and the NRA have provided safety training to gun owners and their families. That’s something you cannot say about Johns Hopkins or Americans for Gun Safety or any other “gun control” organization.

The number of accidental deaths by firearms has been declining since we started keeping track in the early 1900’s. It’s at its lowest point ever currently. But so long as Americans have and exercise the right to arms anything, tragic accidents will occur. We don’t seem equivalently concerned that far more children in that age group die by drowning (801 in 2000.)

Second: “Research shows that many criminals obtain guns that were first sold by a fairly small number of unscrupulous or careless gun dealers”? Why is this the responsibility of the gun manufacturers? Note the wording. “First sold” means those guns might have been straw-purchases, where a person who is not prohibited from buying a gun does so for someone who is. It might also mean that an honest citizen bought a gun from a dealer, and then innocently sold it to someone who was prohibited. If you were not aware, private citizens do not have access to the background check system. Only licensed dealers do. Or, the guns could have been stolen from the store or from the original purchasers. Also what the Johns Hopkins Center doesn’t tell you is that it’s the responsibility of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to regulate the dealers. It’s their job to close down “unscrupulous” dealers. But instead they seem to spend most of their time harrassing innocent victims and stomping kittens, so much so that Illinois Democratic Congressman John Dingell detailed some of these abuses and called the BATF “jackbooted American fascists” in House testimony in 1995.

Further, the BATF numbers showing “a small number” of dealers as being at fault are often not “dealers” at all. They’re distributors – middlemen between the gun manufacturer and the guy with a storefront. Now I ask you: If a distributor sells to dealers in Miami or the suburbs of Chicago, isn’t he far more likely to be the source of guns that end up used in crimes than a distributor who sells to dealers in, say, Nebraska? If a dealer is the problem, then why doesn’t the BATF pull their license?

Third: “Manufacturers can and should refuse to supply guns to these dealers.” One manufacturer might, but the dealer would then be forced to pick up a different line. That hardly solves the problem. So all manufacturers should refuse to sell to that dealer, right? Really? Nope. That’s grounds for a lawsuit on the basis of restraint of trade and collusion. And the dealer would win.

Finally, “They can also train dealers to better identify and discourage illegal gun buyers”? Let’s say you’re a gun dealer in a suburb of Chigago. A young black man enters your establishment and is dressed like a gang-banger. He wants to buy a 9mm handgun, and his ID shows that he is over the age of 21. He fills out the paperwork and the dealer runs the background check, which comes out clean. The dealer suspects that this handgun is going to be used, sooner or later, in an illegal manner. So he should refuse the sale, right?

He runs the very real risk of a lawsuit for “profiling.” It’s not politically correct to refuse to sell someone anything legal on the grounds that you don’t like the way they look.

Get this straight: regulating the trade in guns is the business of the legislature. The gun control organizations have pursued this path for decades, but they’ve run into a brick wall. So now they’re trying to A) bankrupt gun manufacturers and/or B) use judicial activism to accomplish what they cannot through legislation. And it’s wrong.

More later, maybe.

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Hey! The comments are back up! It wasnt’ Blogger, it was the comment server.

Use ’em while they’re hot!

I Love James Lileks

And I want to have his baby….wait, no…I want to write like he does. (Yeah, that’s the ticket!)

Today’s Bleat is a masterpiece, especially if you’re a Trekker.

Dammit, I missed the season finale of Enterprise. Anyway, here’s some savory bits from the column:

“It was all about 9/11. Proves my point, which isn’t really mine at all and is crushingly obvious besides, but one I’ve been making for years anyway: Star Trek TV shows explicitly mirror the geopolitical climate of its times. Each one is an analogy for the era in which it’s conceived. I’ve written this before but I’m too lazy to find it in the archives, so I’ll repeat myself. Warning: this will contain small fragments of unbelievably dorky insider references. Apology: I know this is of limited interest. Explanation: it’s my website. Accusation: you think I’ve cared one whit about Buffy for seven years? No. Have I said one word against the Slayer? No. I respect people’s adoration of the show. I understand these things. Hell, I still watch Twin Peaks reruns.

“The original show was your post-Kennedy New Frontier view of the future, with an oversexed cowboy at the helm. You wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Kirk’s first command had been the NCC-109. We all know what that show was about; it’s been pecked to death, so let’s move on.

“Next Generation was the New World Order version of Trek. The Enterprise wasn’t a warship threading its way through uncharted seas – it was a space-faring UN agency with a career diplomat in the captain’s chair. A French diplomat, for heaven’s sake.

“In the original series, the Klingons were the Soviets. In the Next Generation, they were still the Soviets, but now there was a chilly entente. This was a smart move, dramatically speaking; it allowed the show to more time with the Klingons, who were far more fun than any of the stuffy wads-o-rectitude on the Enterprise. (You can trace the entire Klingon subculture to the episode where Riker has a brief tour of duty on a Bird of Prey.) All of a sudden everyone realized these guys were actually alcoholic pirates with a mean sense of humor and a complex social code. And who were the humans? Sober missionaries who never got involved, just showed up to sign treaties. Booooring.

“Oh, NextGen did give us a new species: a villainous bunch of misshapen dwarves called the Ferengi, whose social system was ordered entirely around profit. Capitalists.”

Go read. It’s all good.

On a Lighter Note…

Here’s today’s Friday Five:

1. What brand of toothpaste do you use?

Close-up original. I like cinnamon.

2. What brand of toilet paper do you prefer?

Charmin Ultra Double Roll. Sooooooft. And the roll lasts longer than two days. (I live in a house with two women and two toddlers, one potty trained, one in training.)

3. What brand(s) of shoes do you wear?

Boots: Red Wing. Tennies: Wally-world sweat-shop specials. And my boots are my formal shoes. I live in Arizona.

4. What brand of soda do you drink?

For the longest time, original Coke. But now you have forced me to admit that I drink Diet Pepsi, and for that you must die! (Oh, wait. I’m channeling Rumsfeld)

5. What brand of gum do you chew?

I don’t. Or at least I don’t have a preference on those odd occasions that I do.

Comments? We Don’t Need No Steenkin’ Comments!

Apparently Blogger has moved me onto the new servers, and thus my comment function (unused to date anyway) has bitten the dust.

Maybe I’ll put it back on later.

I’m working on my debate response now.

NO MORE GUNS IN CHURCH!

It isn’t nice to burgle churches.

Especially not when the deacon’s packin’.

After all, this was Texas.

What do you want to bet there won’t be any more church burglaries for quite a while?

Biting the hand…

Blogger seems to be working again, if you ignore having to try TWICE to get into the blog.

No wonder Acidman calles Blogspot “THE HOST I WILL NOT NAME.”

I like blogging, but this is frustrating as hell.

“When I Want a Legal Opinion on Gun Control, I Ask a Doctor!”

 or “For the Best Advice on Health Care, Consult the NRA!”

I downloaded the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy “Fact Sheet” (and those quotes are there for ALL the reasons) on “Myths and Facts: Lawsuits brought by Cities or Injured Persons Against the Gun Industry.”

Allow me to fisk it. (Hey, it’s lunchtime. I’ve got an hour to kill.)

“Since 1998 more than 30 cities and counties in the United States have filed lawsuits against the firearm industry for the deaths, injuries, and other costs associated with guns.”

Um, no. Associated with the misuse of guns. That’s a critical distinction which I will return to.

“Myth: Guns are a lawful product so manufacturers should not be held liable for selling them.”

This is a myth? Anheuser Busch isn’t “held liable” for selling beer, even though alcohol is misused and is a component in more death than guns ever were. Ford isn’t “held liable” for selling cars, though they’re used in the commission of crimes.

FACT: Makers of every other product are subject to at least some liability – especially if they fail to take some reasonable steps to reduce the chance that their product will harm someone. This is how the U.S. legal system works. Guns should be no different.”

Well, THAT clears it up. Question: Don’t gun grabbers control supporters claim that “guns are made solely to kill people?” Um, then how do you “reduce the chance” that a product – designed to kill – will “harm someone?” Don’t think too hard about that – your brain will explode.

You see, the difference here is that the lawsuits are not protesting that guns are defective, but that they’re Effective. If they filed a lawsuit against, say, Lorcin protesting that they made crappy guns that you couldn’t depend on and that would fall apart if you ran more than one magazine through one (assuming you could get a magazine through one) then that would be a product liability suit. But that’s not what they’re doing. They’re filing suit because the guns do what they’re designed to do: throw a small metal pellet at high velocity in the direction the weapon is pointed, when the loose nut behind the trigger pulls said trigger.

That’s not a failure of the gun manufacturers, it’s a failure of the operator. Case in point, watch this negligent discharge. There’s not a thing wrong with that gun except the moron with her finger on the trigger. When she pulled it, the gun fired just like it’s designed to do.

They counter:

“Myth: Holding gunmakers liable for injuries caused by guns would be like holding car manufacturers liable for injures caused by drunk drivers.”

Yeah, I just said that. But nooooo they claim:

FACT: It is important to understand that lawsuits against gunmakers do not argue that the manufacturers should be liable simply because they make and sell guns. Instead they argue that there are things the manufacturer could do – but knowingly choose not to do – to make their products less likely to harm children and others, or to be used by criminals. It’s the gun manufacturers’ failure to take these reasonable and feasable steps that the lawsuits assert should make them liable. Put another way: if a car maker designed a car so that even a young child could easily operate it without permission (e.g., it didn’t need a key to start), or marketed the car (somehow) to appeal directly to drunk-drivers, we would think they were liable.”

Well, that’s interesting legerdemain. I’ve seen some of the things they want put on guns to make them “less likely to harm children.” Locks, EXTREMELY heavy triggers, magazine disconnects. Things that POLICE DEPARTMENTS eschew because the primary purpose of a handgun is self-defense, and these things make it likely that when you NEED the gun, it won’t function. It’s interesting that in the laws passed requiring the implementation of “smartgun” technologies – ostensibly to do what these lawsuits are pursuing – the police are EXEMPTED from having to implement the new technology. (Question: Are car manufacturers the subject of lawsuits because the market a product (insanely fast cars) to SPEEDERS?)

Regardless, the court isn’t the place to go in order to force manufacturers to change their products, the legislature is. They’ve tried that and failed. I love this quote from an honest judge:

As an individual, I believe, very strongly, that handguns should be banned and that there should be stringent, effective control of other firearms. However, as a judge, I know full well that the question of whether handguns can be sold is a political one, not an issue of products liability law, and that this is a matter for the legislatures, not the courts. The unconventional theories advanced in this case (and others) are totally without merit, a misuse of products liability laws.” — Judge Buchmeyer, Patterson v. Gesellschaft, 1206 F.Supp. 1206, 1216 (N.D. Tex. 1985)

Gee, ya THINK? And Judge Buchmeyer isn’t alone.

“The Court finds as a matter of law that the risks associated with the use of a firearm are open and obvious and matters of common knowledge.”
– Judge Ruehlman, Court of Common Pleas of Ohio, City of Cincinnati v. Beretta U.S.A. Corp. et al., No. A9902369, 1999 WL 809838, *1 (Ohio Com.Pl. Oct. 7, 1999).

“In the view of this Court, the City’s complaint is an improper attempt to have this Court substitute its judgment for that of the legislature, which this Court is neither inclined nor empowered to do.” Ibid. at *1.

“In substance, the City and its Mayor opt to engage in efforts at arbitrary social reform by invoking the process of the Judicial Branch of Government, where apparently the City perceives, but fails to allege, irreversible failures in the appropriate Legislative Branch(s) of Government….The City should not be permitted to invoke the jurisdiction of this Court to overlay or supplement existing civil and criminal ‘gun’ statutes and processes (either state and federal) by means of a series of judicial fiats which, when taken together, would only create a body of ‘judge made gun laws’.”
– Special Judge James J. Richards, Lake Superior Court, County of Lake, City of Gary v. Smith & Wesson, Cause No. 45D05-005-CT-243, slip op. 7 (Ind. Super. Ct. Jan. 12, 2001).

“The County’s request that the trial court use its injunctive powers to mandate redesign of firearms and declare that the appellees’ business methods create a public nuisance, is an attempt to regulate firearms and ammunition through the medium of the judiciary…. The County’s frustration cannot be alleviated through litigation as the judiciary is not empowered to ‘enact’ regulatory measures in the guise of injunctive relief. The power to legislate belongs not to the judicial branch of government but to the legislative branch.”
– Judge J.J. Fletcher, District Court of Appeal of Florida, Third District, Penelas v. Arms Technology, Inc., 778 So.2d 1042, 1045

There have been 33 lawsuits of this type filed. The majority have been rejected on the grounds Judge Buchmeyer cites, or other grounds having to do with the appropriateness of trying to use the courts to accomplish ends the courts are not there for. A couple have been dropped after wending their way through the appeals system, and a few are still pending. But it only takes one to get a judgement that will put the gun manufacturer(s) out of business, and the cost of fighting these cases is enough to severely wound the manufacturers. And THAT is the goal.

Whoops! Lunchtime is over. I’ll come back to this, as there is more crunchy goodness to fisk.