Irony, Indeed!

The post below, I Love My People has been linked at Un-DemocraticUnderground

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118×165622

(Link left cold, on purpose.)

One “Iverglas,” hit the site some time after, I believe, I was ceremoniously kicked off after my own six month stint there – September 3 of 2002 by none other than Skinner, the site administrator. “Iverglas” appears to hate all firearms and anyone who does not hate all firearms, and posts this:

I see no reason for thinking that this post is anything other than the astroturf effort undertaken by the online “gun rights” community to take over discussion at that site:

http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/04/i-love-my-…

The original post is dated January 6, 2008, so it took a while for our grassroots to find it, but just damn!

I complained awhile ago about some of our more vocal elements sometimes being a detriment to our cause, but the comments to this post are outstanding, even given the inevitable minor errors. The entire tone is calm, logical, factual, and fierce.

Everybody who commented? Take a bow. You deserve it.

Everybody who linked? You are the difference between Joyce-funded astroturf, and the grassroots from the divots our opponents keep picking out of their teeth.

Ah, irony.

Indeed. Obviously, “Iverglas” has A) no understanding of the word “grassroots,” and B) no understanding of the word “irony.”

Because they just whacked him/her in the mouth.

Heh. How’s that divot taste, Iverglas?

Quote of the Day.

This is another multi-parter. The first part comes from Mr. Dave Musgrove, a self-described “Democratic voter and blogger” who penned a piece for Pajamas Media about the Des Moines, Iowa Pizza Hut delivery driver who used his legally carried concealed weapon to defend himself against a mugger, and who subsequently lost his job, since carrying a pistol with the pizza is against Company Policy.

The whole piece isn’t very long, but the gist of it is that Mr. Musgrove doesn’t understand the difference between “violent and predatory” and “violent but protective.” No, in Mr. Musgrove’s world, if you carry a gun, you’re a threat (unless, of course, you’re an authorized agent of the State. – Remember my three–part series on that?)

Musgrove states:

Among the internet reader comments on James Spiers’ story are more than a few urging a boycott against Pizza Hut. I don’t think a boycott, per se, will be necessary. More likely, the next time I think about ordering pizza, part of me will be reminded that the delivery guy may be armed, and I’ll hear a whisper of Dirty Harry’s own voice asking, “Do I feel lucky?”

So I won’t be doing any boycotting. But wondering whether the pizza delivery guy trotting up my walk is packing heat along with my pepperoni isn’t likely to do my appetite any favors.

Because, you see, in Musgrove’s world Mr. Spiers, the victim of the robbery, is equally as dangerous as Kenneth Jimmerson, the man who tried to mug him, but who won’t be mugging anybody for a while.

Musgrove also put up a post at his own site, No Pizza for Old Men, where he noted the volume and tone of the comments to his PJM piece. What did he learn from those comments?

95 comments so far over at PJM. Here is what I have learned so far:

guns = safety
killing = courage

I dropped him a comment of my own:

Here’s what I’ve learned:

You = oblivious

You actually suggested that disarming the victim would be better than allowing him to defend himself. Have you actually tried to engage any of your critics?

No, that would require Mr. Musgrove to question his own philosophy. He took two additional comments, then closed the comment thread at his site, but not before he added what he thought would be the clincher argument, the one that made his point of the PJM piece:

Whether you agree or disagree with what I have written, I commend to you these words of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who died 40 years ago today, himself the victim of gun violence:

“I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality… I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word.”

Problem is, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. died from hatred. A rifle wasn’t the cause of his death. A bomb would have done the job James Earl Ray set out to do. Or a molotov cocktail, or any of dozens of other methods. But Musgrove blames the gun, ’cause, guns’r bad mmmmkay?

None of those are the Quote of the Day. This is, and it’s by The Geek with a .45:

In a truly civil society peopled primarily by enlightened, sober individuals, the carriage of arms might be deemed gratuitous, but it is nonetheless harmless. In a society that measures up to anything less than that, the option to carry arms is a necessity.

I’m sure Mr. Musgrove would read it and shake his head and move on. As Churchill put it, “Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.”
Amen. And good night.

I Love My People…

…we People of the Gun. There are currently at least eight posts all linking to one very interesting post and comment thread at Sociological Images. They are as follows:

If You Read Nothing Else Today

WARNING: Possible tools of the gun lobby

Quote of the Day

A Basic Human Right

Visual Rhetoric

Their Own Weapon Turned Against Them

Interesting Images

A Rant Deleted

The original post is dated January 6, 2008, so it took a while for our grassroots to find it, but just damn!

I complained awhile ago about some of our more vocal elements sometimes being a detriment to our cause, but the comments to this post are outstanding, even given the inevitable minor errors. The entire tone is calm, logical, factual, and fierce.

Everybody who commented? Take a bow. You deserve it.

Everybody who linked? You are the difference between Joyce-funded astroturf, and the grassroots from the divots our opponents keep picking out of their teeth.

I love all y’all.

UPDATE: If you’re visiting from DemocraticUnderground, you might want to read this response to Iverglas.

Quote of the Day.

That’s the great thing about being in the real grassroots, I know that every point I don’t address will get nailed by someone else. – Ahab concluding his post Wintemute is Back

Yup. The biggest problem I’ve got now, after almost five years of gunblogging, is getting something written and posted before six other people have done a better job of it! (Case in point….)

Quote of the Day.

(S)he was a liar. She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality. – Jerry Zeifman, now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee who supervised Hillary Rodham when she worked on the Watergate investigation on why he fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation.

Color me unsurprised. Leopards don’t change their spots, either. And now she has a creditable shot at the Oval Office.

Sorry About the Lack of Posting…

A combination of my allergies kicking my ass, the arrival of my copy of Battlestar Galactica, Season 3, and my reading (P.J. O’Rourke’s On The Wealth of Nations and Jonah Goldberg’s Liberal Fascism) has kept me away from the computer. Well, that and work. We’re ridiculously busy.

I’ve been working on another überpost, but I’ve found some things in the early chapters of Liberal Fascism that work with that piece, so I’m delaying it until I can think about it in more detail.

Please bear with me during this slow period.

OK, This is Cool!.

Richard Branson, founder of Virgin, and Larry Page and Sergey Brin, founders of Google, have decided that Man needs to mine other planets. Mars is first up on their list.

Let’s just hope that Microsoft isn’t doing the software!

Actually, I hope they’re serious, but it will take more money than they have to do what they want. It’ll take more than they have plus what Bill Gates has.

I still want to see viable colonies elsewhere in the solar system before I shuffle off this mortal coil, though. Lunar, L5, Martian, even inhabited asteroids in the belt between Mars and Jupiter. Humanity needs a diaspora.

(ETA: For the record, I figure this is a Google April Fool’s Day joke – read the pages they put up. But it’s nice to dream.)

“The secret of social harmony is simple: Old men must be dangerous.”

That quote is from Grim’s Hall, in his piece Social Harmony, quoted here before in the first part of my Dangerous Victims trilogy.

Someone learned that lesson last Wednesday. (h/t: Instapundit)

Police: Teen makes mistake of trying to rob former U.S. Marine

SANTA ROSA – A boy in his mid-teens learned Wednesday afternoon that it is not a good idea to try to rob a former U.S. Marine at knifepoint, even if the former Marine is 84 years old, police said today.

Santa Rosa police Sgt. Steve Bair said that’s what happened around 2 p.m. in the 1600 block of Fourth Street. The elderly man was walking with a grocery bag in each arm when the boy approached him with a large knife, Bair said.

The boy said, “Old man, give me your wallet or I’ll cut you,” Bair said. The man told the boy he was a former Marine who fought in three wars and had been threatened with knives and bayonets, Bair said.

The man then put his bags on the ground and told the boy that if he stepped closer he would be sorry. When the boy stepped closer, the man kicked him in the groin, knocking him to the sidewalk, Bair said. The ex-Marine picked up his grocery bags and walked home, leaving the boy doubled over, Bair said.

The man reported the attempted robbery to police 45 minutes later.

Bair said the teen is described only as 15 or 16 years old. Anyone with information is asked to call the Police Department.

Ah, I love a happy ending!