Another “Gullible Gunner”?

Long-time readers know about the months-long exchange between me and Australian blogger Tim Lambert over the topic of self-defense in the UK. His position is that self-defense is perfectly legal – though there might be a bit of a “chilling effect” on its practice – due, he says, to “gullible gunners” like me who blow news stories out of proportion. My position is that self-defense is legally on the books, but any citizen who actually tries it puts his freedom and fortune into the hands of the Law because the Crown Prosecution Service will most probably charge that citizen for violating some statute or six.

Case in point (h/t KeepandBearArms.com), 64 year-old Diane Bond:

Brave grandma arrested after standing up to yobs

By IAN DRURY, Daily Mail
22:00pm 4th August 2006

After months of being taunted by a gang of yobs, grandmother Diane Bond finally stood up to them when she was abused while walking her pet dog. During a torrent of foul-mouthed abuse, the frail 64-year-old prodded the teenager ringleader gently in the stomach when he urged her to “Hit me, if you dare”.

Obviously the teenaged “yob” doesn’t fear the law much.

Moments later, the 5ft 1ins pensioner found herself flat on her back and nursing a broken arm after the 15-year-old boy, who was 7 inches taller, pushed her to the ground. But to add insult to injury, police officers arrested her for assaulting a child after his mother moaned he had been attacked.

And there’s another reason for his behavior.

Now Mrs Bond must report to a police station 30 miles from her home in Llandrindod Wells, Powys, Wales, at the end of the month to find out if she will be charged. Last night the retired lab technician spoke of her distress. “I am in shock and very, very teary,” she said.

“I have never been in any trouble before. I just want to enjoy my evenings walking my dog in peace. I am being treated like a criminal because a gang of yobs have nothing better to do than pick on an old lady.”

Buck up, Mrs. Bond. You’re not alone!*

Residents of her quiet street have complained to the police and council for several months about youths causing anti-social behaviour. In the latest letter to Powys County Council in June, residents said they had suffered an “endless stream” of damage to property and cars, intimidation, vandalism, noise and rubbish being hurled into gardens by up to 30 youths aged 11 to 17.

Well, I’m sure the local constabulary has handed out a number of ASBOs – “Anti-social behavior orders” – to the misguided yoots. What else can they do?

Signed by 35 fed-up people, it added: “Collectively, we are sick and tired of the situation and our frustration is now close to boiling over.”

They’d best be careful! That kind of wording could be considered a threat of premeditated assault!

Things finally came to a head when Mrs Bond, who has two children and five grandchildren, took her terrier Hettie for a walk on parkland near her home. She said a group of about 20 teenagers were loitering on the grass. Three others were standing on a path, deliberately blocking her way.

“As I approached they started shouting abuse at me,” she said. “They were taunting me and crowding round me and I was quite frightened because they are big kids.

“After a while one of them, whose name is Billy, spread his arms out wide to show his stomach, and said, Come on, old lady, hit me, if you dare.”

“I gave him three prods, almost like playful punches, not hard at all, and next thing I knew I was lying on the ground and I had broken my arm. One youth said I had been pushed.

“I went back home, shaking and crying.”

Yet she was the one arrested (since, being a law-abiding citizen, she wouldn’t resist and probably doesn’t even know a lawyer, much less retain one…)

Soon after, two police officers knocked on Mrs Bond’s door and arrested her on suspicion of assaulting a minor. “It seemed the lad had told his mum what had happened and she had immediately lodged a complaint of assault,” she said.

Mrs Bond, who lives alone, was cautioned and interviewed for nearly three hours by police officers before she was released on bail at about 1.30am.

Let’s do the math: Carry the one… They arrested her at about 10:30 PM! It couldn’t wait until the following morning? She was going to skip the country overnight to avoid prosecution? And bail? I’m curious as to just how much this flight-risk had to shell out to get out of the slammer!

She has now made a counter-allegation to the police of assault against the youth. But she added: “This sends out the message that if you stand up for yourself, if you try to take action to stop anti-social behaviour, you are likely to end up being arrested.”

Yes. That’s EXACTLY what it does. And it’s meant to. And that’s the point I’ve been making all along.

Earlier this year, Prime Minister Tony Blair said communities had to stand up to yobs in the fight against nuisance behaviour. Mrs Bond’s neighbour Steve Simmons, who co-ordinates the Nelson Street – An End To Anti-Social Behaviour campaign group, said: “Diane is a reasonable law-abiding citizen and she has been treated like a criminal for standing up to yobs when the authorities would not.

“It is bewildering. The Government says communities should look after themselves and take a stance against anti-social behaviour. But when we do try to take action, what is the first thing that happens? The blame is put on us.”

Noticed that, did you? Once the government has seized the monopoly on the legitimate use of force, it will not surrender that monopoly willingly. What’s bewildering about that?

In May, grandmother Brenda Robinson, 66, of Bournemouth, spent a night in a police cell after being arrested for alleged assault when she gave a rowdy youth a “clip round the ear”.

That used to be known as “administering disclipline,” but no longer. Add Mrs. Robinson to the list, then. She’s in good company, too.

She acted after being abused, pushed and threatened with a plank of wood. Roger Williams, Liberal Democrat MP for Brecon and Radnorshire, said: “I would have expected the police to have acted slightly more proportionately than arresting Mrs Bond over this.

“It must have been a frightening situation for an elderly lady to be confronted by a gang of yobs, especially in an area with a history of anti-social behaviour, without the police compounding the problem.”

Gee, ya THINK?

Chief Inspector Steve Hughson, of Dyfed-Powys Police, said: “We are aware of the problems in Nelson Street and associated anti-social behaviour.

“Recent patrols in the area by the neighbourhood policing team have greatly reduced incidents of crime and anti social behaviour, to the extent that positive comments have been received by local residents.

If you interpret “About bloody time!” as a “positive comment.”

“Therefore patrols will continue.”

Until the media pressure is off.

The force declined to comment on Mrs Bond’s arrest.

I bet they did.

*Mrs. Bond is in the company of fine people like Mrs. Robinson, mentioned above, and also:

Maureen Jennings, 50, of Manchester.

Martin James, 64, late of Birmingham.

Bill Clifford, 77, late of Hampshire.

David Benton, 44, of Moorby

Linda Walker, 47, of Greater Manchester

Yes, they’re all just “gullible gunners” like me.

A Right to WHAT?!?.

While working on that upcoming essay on rights, what do I step in? This story:

Ohio Man Claims Right To Have Sex With Boys

Admitted Pedophile Says Children Can Consent

POSTED: 6:52 am EDT August 3, 2006

CLEVELAND — It was probably not a defense the court had heard before.

A suburban Cleveland man accused of sexually assaulting nine disabled boys told a judge Wednesday that his apartment was a religious sanctuary where smoking marijuana and having sex with children are sacred rituals protected by civil rights laws.

The admitted pedophile offered a surprising defense Wednesday to 74 charges of rape, drugs and pandering obscenity to minors.

Appearing in an Ohio court for a pretrial hearing, Phillip Distasio, 34, of Rocky River, Ohio, said he was a pedophile.

He told the judge, “I’m a pedophile. I’ve been a pedophile for 20 years. The only reason I’m charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. The role of my ministry is to get these cases out of the courtrooms.”

Distasio, a self-professed pagan friar, is representing himself on 74 charges. He said he’s the leader of a church called Arcadian Fields Ministries, and that some of his congregants are among the victims in his case.

The judge told Distasio to confine his arguments to secular laws at his trial, scheduled to begin Sept. 11.

“If you want to challenge the law, that’s your right to do so,” Judge Kathleen Sutula said. “But we’re going to follow the laws of Ohio in this courtroom.”

Cuyahoga County Bill Mason said Distasio was arrested after he wanted to write a blog for the Lakewood Library. Officials noticed something was wrong and notified Rocky River police.

Distasio was arrested on charges he molested two disabled boys he was tutoring at his home. He’s also accused of raping seven other autistic children at a Cleveland school for special-needs students, The Plain Dealer reported. All but one of the boys was under 13, which carries a mandatory life-in-prison sentence if he is convicted, the paper reported.

Police said they found journals at Distasio’s apartment in which he described his illegal activities, along with child pornography and videotapes of him engaged in sex with boys, The Plain Dealer reported

“Not all pedophilia is bad, and sex [with boys] can be healthy,” Distasio told the court.

According to the journals, two of Distasio’s victims were so helpless they could never tell anyone what happened.

“The defendant describes acts in which he had autistic children and he did what I would call sadistic sexual acts with these children,” said Mason.

The school he ran from his apartment was called Class Cutters. According to Distasio’s Web site, students and parents chose the curriculum in the school for unique children.

But prosecutors said it was little more than a trap that snared one victim and then another.

“Like all predators, he used this one child to bring other children to him and that’s what was happening, and that’s how he got his second victim,” said Mason.

And prosecutors believe there may be more victims.

Distasio has a history of working with children dating back 10 years.

Prosecutors said he could be sentenced to life in prison if convicted.

All Distasio deserves is a new rope and a short drop. As far as I’m concerned, his right to life ought to be forfeit.

Another Überpost Upcoming.

The last chapter (I hope) on the question of Rights is currently under construction. Hopefully I’ll get it finished and posted this weekend. While Bill Whittle and I share a love for really long posts, at least I don’t make you wait eight months for mine. (Of course, his read a lot better…)

This one’s taking a lot more work than normal, so bear with me. I hope it will be worth it.

In Re. Rusty Shackleford’s “I’m Buying a Gun.”

Dr. Shackelford of The Jawa Report has concluded, after the Seattle Jewish Federation shooting, that he’s going to buy a gun. The “Armed Liberal” at Winds of Change has some advice for others considering the same purchase, and his commenters have more. Much more. Here’s my 2¢:

Good advice, and not so good advice. But I’m glad the topic has come up.

Armed Liberal advises: “First, go sleep on it. Owning a gun is, more than anything, a responsibility (one this too many people take far too lightly). You are responsible for the gun 24/7; are you prepared for that? Owning a gun doesn’t intrinsically make you safer; Jeff Cooper famously said that ‘owning a gun doesn’t make you a shooter any more than owning a piano makes you a musician’.”

As I recall, the quote goes more: “Owning a gun doesn’t make you armed…” – a subtle but pertinent point. Even shooters aren’t necessarily “armed” when it comes to the mindset necessary to defend oneself or others. A lot of people are “shooters” – and keep their trap & skeet shotguns or target pistols locked up in safes at home. They own guns, but are not “armed.”

There’s a lot of advice in this comment thread – some of it good, most of it not. If you read Dr. Shackelford’s declaration and said to yourself, “He’s right, I should too,” then avail yourself of one of the blogosphere’s myriad useful features, the gunbloggers. There’s 107 of us at last count. Most of us are reachable by email and we’re happy to answer questions. Or, if you’re interested in the idea, but unsure for certain you want to go the distance and buy a gun, check out this list of people who will give introductory instruction – free of charge, using our own firearms and ammunition. We’re all over the country.

Now, on to some of the more excellent to egregious comments.

Comment #1 from Gunshy has already been handled ably by others. My comment: Do some research. You’d be surprised.

Comment #13 from ed: While it’s true that handguns are not particularly effective weapons at dropping an assailant at one shot, most defensive shootings occur at ranges of 21′ (yes, feet) or less. A 4″ barrelled revolver is adequately accurate at that range, if the operator does his job properly. At 21′ or less, it is quite possible that an assailant can cover the distance to the defender rapidly enough to get inside the swing of the barrel of a shotgun, rendering it ineffective. But even a .38 snubbie works quite well if it’s pressed against flesh. Handguns are useful. So are shotguns. But they are not interchangeable. Handguns are more convenient. That’s why cops don’t carry their riot guns while writing traffic tickets.

Comment #20 from celebrim: Bravo, sir! I’ve archived that one.

Comment #26 from blabberjabber: Again, skillfully handled by others. The lowest number of self-defense incidents I’ve ever seen came from a Bureau of Justice Statistics study. It was 168,000 defensive gun uses annually. That’s 460 a day. How many does there need to be to make gun ownership justifiable?

Comment #28 from David Blue: Thank you for your sentiment. I feel for you.

Comment #29 from Conrad, who wrote: “Someone who carries a sidearm in order to defend his country against terrorists is a buffoon.” Tell that to the victims of the shooter in Seattle. The only one armed there was the terrorist. (And yes, he was a terrorist. Why do you think he shot only women?)

Comment #41 from Ric Locke: Hear hear! Absolutely correct – and completely ignored by those unwilling to “to participate rather than being a passive member of society.”

Comment #45 from hmmmm, who wrote: “If you think your life is in imminent danger and desparately need a real gun, seek help. Move. Get a restraining order. Don’t get a gun unless you are ready to kill someone, because that is what is going to happen.” I suggest you read the blog of Zendo Deb at wheelgun.blogspot.com. Her specialty is citing story after story of people who have done all that you suggest – and still end up dead. She also covers stories that turn out somewhat better – when a defender is armed.

Go read the whole thing.

Outstanding Dillon Precision Customer Service.

If you’re a reloader, you’ve probably heard stories like this one before, but let me tell you mine. A while back I was the “winning” eBay bidder on a used Dillon RL-450 reloading press – a model Dillon Precision no longer makes. It’s a less expensive variant of their RL-550B that lacks the option of removable toolheads. The seller said that the unit was a little rusty. He wasn’t kidding.

When it arrived, I wasn’t sure just exactly what I had. What I did have was a faded blue frame with a rusty operating handle, two powder measures, primer tubes, and a bunch of other parts, but having never owned an RL-450 or -550 before (I’ve got a Square Deal B for loading .45ACP), I didn’t know if I was missing parts, or if it was out of adjustment, or anything. I contacted Dillon about sending it in for an evaluation, got a return authorization number, and included a letter explaining that I’d bought it on eBay, wasn’t exactly sure I had everything I needed, would like to know what was wrong with it, and what it needed to get it up to speed. I waited about three weeks, and was about to drop them a note to see if they’d gotten to it when a UPS package appeard on my doorstep.

Dillon had rebuilt it.

The frame is still the faded blue piece I sent in, but as far as I can tell, everything else on it looks pretty damned new. Included in the new (correct) box, there was an instruction manual and an invoice showing over $200 in parts – at no charge. No labor charge either. They aren’t kidding about that “Lifetime ‘No-B.S.’ Warranty.”

I paid the eBay seller $152.50 for it. A new RL-550B costs $369.95.

I haven’t gotten it set up yet – just a complete lack of time – but I’m looking forward to cranking out many, many thousands of rounds in the future.

And I’ll be buying Dillon again. Actually, I’m going through the catalog picking out all the pieces I need to load all the calibers I’ve got right now…

Proportionality

OK, I do have something to say about the current Israel-Hezbolla conflict.

Today Glenn Reynolds has one of his typical posts, this one discussing the topic of “proportionality” on the part of Israel. He quotes law professor Kenneth Anderson:

Legal scholars who want to focus on the UN Charter as the sole source of legal authority for the use of force – and hence see any armed action by a party as having to be ‘proportionate’ pending some (typically mythological) intervention by the Security Council – tend to underplay that the Charter does not remove the customary law of self-defense, which does not require a “proportionate” response once belligerency is underway.

Obviously Professor Anderson doesn’t live in England. “Proportionality” is imbedded in their self-defense law – at least when they want it to be. In England, the mere intention to cause harm is an imprisonable offence. Said Judge Shirley Anwyl at the sentencing of Brett Osborne for stabbing Wayne Halling:

“By your plea you have accepted that you intended real serious injury. Your use of violence was not wholly unpremeditated in that you did equip yourself with at least one knife.”

Mr. Halling, hopped to the eyeballs on cocaine, and bleeding profusely from numerous cuts resulting from his smashing windows, had forced his way into Mr. Osborne’s home, where Mr. Osborne had several houseguests, including a pregnant woman whom Mr. Halling apparently mistook for his estranged girlfriend. Mr. Osborne, in fear for his safety and that of his guests, picked up a steak knife and stabbed Mr. Halling with it.

This was, apparently, “not proportional.” Judge Anwyl stated that she accepted that Halling could have been perceived to be “dangerous to others,” but:

With hindsight it is clear that Halling was presenting no real danger to anyone but himself.

I am reminded here of Col. Jeff Cooper’s famous response concerning aggression by attackers:

One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that “violence begets violence.” I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure—and in some cases I have—that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy.

There’s nothing “proportional” in that.

Nor should there be. Neither Israel nor Brett Osborne should be criticized for acting appropriately.

Now THIS is Freakin’ COOL.

I periodically check my sitemeter referrals list. I’ve found a lot of interesting commentary that way, and I can see where my readers are coming from, too. Nice to know that TSM has a small, but international audience. Tonight I noticed a visit via Google’s translation service.

It seems that visitor number 600,025 came from Beijing:

The visitor had Google translate Reasonable People, well, two-thirds of it, anyway.

Given the “accuracy” of translation engines from other languages to English, though, I have to wonder just how badly it mangled the original.

Actually, I’m kind of surprised that TSM isn’t (apparently) banned from being accessed from China, given the subject matter I cover here.