I Also Do Requests

Reader Sarah forwarded a link to me and asked that I fisk it. It’s to the Brady Campaign’s “CCW FAQ” page. I’m very much pressed for time at the moment, so I’m going to have to do this in pieces, but I promised her I’d do it, and it is fiskworthy, as you’d expect. Let’s get right to it, shall we?

Q: What is a “carrying concealed weapons” license?
A:
A “carrying concealed weapons” (CCW) license allows an individual to carry a loaded, concealed gun.

CCW laws have nothing to do with private firearms ownership in the home. They relate solely to allowing individuals to carry their concealed guns almost anywhere in the community.

Except places where the government prohibits, like courtrooms and schools and restaurants that serve alcohol, and places that have signs prohibiting concealed carry on the premises. Pretty much anywhere the Brady Bunch et al. can get the business owner to object.

Q: The gun lobby, headed by the National Rifle Association, has been engaged in a major campaign in all 50 states to pass the weakest CCW laws. What is their rationale for making it easier for just about anyone to carry a concealed, loaded weapon?
A:
It is extremely important to understand the NRA’s motivation for advocating these laws – the NRA is a special interest group whose primary goal is to increase gun ownership in America.

Right-o! The idea behind the NRA is to have a nation of marksmen – people who possess weapons and are trained in their proper use. I’m all for that.

The NRA no longer disguises the fact that they are an advocacy group for the gun industry. In response to questions about the new, more deadly ultracompact guns that have appeared on the market, Tanya Metaksa, chief lobbyist for the NRA, crowed that: “The gun industry should send me a basket of fruit – our efforts have created a new market.”

“More deadly”? More deadly that what? The high-capacity pistols that they made ultra-expensive by stopping the manufacture of magazines of greater than 10 rounds capacity? How is an “ultracompact” 9mm handgun that holds ten rounds “more deadly” than a regular sized one that carries fifteen? Sophistry.

This is evidence that “the NRA is an advocacy group for the gun industry”? The NRA must have a gun industry to accomplish its ends – defined above as “increasing gun ownership in America.” Allowing the gun controllers to wipe out the source lets them end-run the Second Amendment without bothering to overthrow it. Damned straight the NRA supports the gun manufacturers. The gun banners change the rules, and then bitch when the market responds to the rule changes. You don’t get it both ways.

Or perhaps, if you’re the Brady Bunch, you do.

Laws that make it easier to carry concealed weapons are legislative sales tools for the gun industry and their loudest cheerleader, the NRA. In fact, gun sellers view these laws as excellent marketing tools. According to the Vice President of Marketing for Interarms, the effort to weaken CCW laws is the “most important star on the horizon.”

They sure are. And they’re also a great way for people to take responsibility for their own safety. It’s a win-win situation for people who want to be citizens and not wards of the State.

Former National Rifle Association President Tom Washington was often quoted as saying: “an armed society is a polite society.”

If he was, he was quoting author Robert Anson Heinlein from one of his science fiction novels.

If this were the case, the United States would be the most polite society on earth. Already there are over 222 million privately-owned firearms in the country, and we are by no means the safest nation on earth.

And we are not and armed nation. We’re a nation with a lot of guns, certainly, but we’re not “armed” in the sense that Heinlein meant it. Here’s the entire quotation:

“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.”

(Emphasis mine.) In Heinlein’s meaning, “armed” means “bearing weapons.” Yes, perhaps as in carrying concealed. Yet in the states that have “shall issue” CCW only about 2% of the eligible population actually acquire a permit, and it’s probable that only about half of those actually carry at any time. This is hardly an “armed society.”

We’ve got lots of guns in cabinets, safes, and closets, but very damned few in hand or on hips. Perhaps if there were more of the violent but protective out there bearing arms, our society would be more polite.

In 1994, 38,505 Americans were killed by firearms – in homicides, suicides and accidents. Between 1987 and 1994, the rate for non-handgun murders declined by 11%, while the rate of handgun homicides increased by 52%. 1.1 million violent crimes were committed with handguns in 1993. Recently, the extraordinary benefits of reasonable gun control laws like the Brady Law, the Federal ban on assault weapons, and certain state laws have started to emerge. Crime with guns is just now falling faster than the overall crime rate. It is vital that we continue to move forward in our fight against gun violence in America.

Spin, spin, spin. It’s all they can do. They know that all the gun laws they’ve tried have not affected violent crime in the least, but they’ve got to make it look good. How about some reality? Here’s the long-term homicide trend in the U.S., 1950 through 2000:

Click on the graph for the data set by year. Note that there were peaks in 1972, 1980, and 1991. By 1994 and the passage of the Assault Weapon Ban, the homicide rate was declining. Bear in mind that each and every year about two million new long guns and one million new handguns enter the civilian market. Including lots of those “assault weapons” that the Brady’s and others protest “skirt the ban.”

The Brady’s want to take credit for that decline by citing “the Brady Law, the Federal ban on assault weapons (that isn’t a ban), and certain state laws.” Let me present another graphic for you to look at of “certain state laws,” and please note the dates:

Is CCW in any way responsible for the precipitous decade of decline in homicide rates? I don’t know, but my assertion is every bit as possible as theirs. Throwing in the other statistics about violent crime and handguns? Just more cherry picking to obscure the fact that gun control laws haven’t had any noticeable effect on crime rates. Here’s another long-term trend, this time of gun crime:

Again, click on the graph for the source data. Notice that the Brady center picked 1993 – the WORST year for gun crime in the last 30 for their piece. But the Brady law was passed in 1994 and was reviewed in 2000 by the (not gun friendly) Journal of the American Medical Association by (not gun friendly) Jens Ludwig and Philip Cook of Georgetown University in their paper “Homicide and Suicide Rates Associated with Implementation of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act.” Let me quote from the paper for you:

Our analyses provide no evidence that implementation of the Brady Act was associated with a reduction in homicide rates. In particular, we find no differences in homicide or firearm homicide rates to adult victims in the 32 treatment states directly subject to the Brady Act provisions compared with the remaining control states.

Although our study detected no reduction in homicide rates in treatment states compared with control states, we found that suicide rates for persons aged 55 years or older were reduced in the treatment states. The estimated association between the Brady Act treatment and gun suicide rates among persons aged 55 years and older is equal to ?0.92 per 100000 (95% CI, ?1.43 to ?0.42), or about 6% of the gun suicide rate among this age group in the control states after the Brady Act had become law.

However, we did not detect an association of the Brady Act with overall suicide rates.Wefind some signs of an offsetting increase in nongun suicides to those aged 55 years or older, which makes the reduction in the total suicide rate smaller than the reduction in gun suicides. Neither the increase in nongun suicides nor the decrease in suicides from all causes are statistically significant at the conventional 95% level, though the overall pattern of findings is consistent with theories of “weapon substitution.”

Let me translate: The Brady law did not affect homicide. It resulted in some elderly men choosing a different method of committing suicide. That’s it. And that result was reported by two champions of the gun control movement.

As I keep saying, the gun control philosophy cannot be wrong! So “Do it some more, only HARDER! is ever the cry.

More to come…

Americans, Gun Controllers, and the “Aggressive Edge”

I rented the Collector’s Edition 2-disc set of James Cameron’s Aliens this weekend, and thoroughly enjoyed the extended director’s cut of the film. It made a good movie that much better, in my opinion, and it should have been the one originally released. Anyway, the second disc has a lot of special features about the making of the movie; the pre-production, the casting, filming, special effects, etc. And there were interviews interspersed with the cast and crew and support people. Some of those interviews were really fascinating to me.

The first section on pre-production talked about the fact that the film was shot in England, mostly at Pinewood Studios, but this little bit piqued my interest:

Mary Selway, UK casting for Aliens:

“It was INCREDIBLY hard to do, because, um, James kept saying, ‘State of the art firepower. They’ve got to be incredibly, sort of on the cutting edge of American military…’

“So, what often happens here when American actors come to live in England, they become a bit Anglicized, and they don’t… they lose that really, sort of aggressive edge if you like, that this sort casting required.”

She said it, I didn’t.

Immediately after Ms. Selway’s piece:

Gale Anne Hurd – producer.

“I think we probably went through 3,000 people before we could even consider bringing anyone over from the United States.”

Hmmm… They went through 3,000 “Anglicized” people and couldn’t get enough aggressive ones?

Well, two Americans they did find in England were Jenette Goldstein, who played Vasquez, and Mark Rolston, who played the other heavy gunner, Drake. However, they apparently brought Lance Henrikson, who played the “artificial person” Bishop over straight from New York:

“The first time I walked on the set..

“I told you this story…

“The AD (Assistant Director) put his hand on my chest, and, and, nobody ever touched me like that – you know, like stopping me, and I, um, being from New York I said to him, uh ‘You ever touch me again, I’m gonna kick your ass.’

“The next thing he did was say, ‘Alright. Bring in the Artiste!”

“And I said, ‘Man, you really are a wise guy’ because I thought he was, like, putting us down, and I, I didn’t realize the British call people “artistes.”

“Even though we speak the same language, it’s a different language. And…

“They’re different than us.”

That’s pretty apparent. And it’s also apparent that we both prefer it that way.

The next part that really got my attention was the section on the weapons used in the movie. There’s a lot of neat technical stuff and pictures to keep us gun-nuts happy, but the interviews with the actors were, shall we say, illuminating. Some of the interviews were shot during principal filming, and some were shot for the 2003 DVD special edition re-release. I’ll identify them where I think it’s important:

Sigourney Weaver, during initial filming:

“It’s actually hard for me morally to justify being in a film with so many guns.

“I just find it… very upsetting. And that’s the biggest problem for me, is that I, reading the script, I had no idea how…martial the atmosphere would be, and how much emphasis that would have.

“I give money to anti-gun legislation, and..

“I mean, I never, I never even go to see movies about guns. Especially killing people. I can’t, you know, I mean I just think… Oooh, I think it would be very difficult for an actor. You’d really have to sort of, do a number on yourself, you know.”

Apparently not some actors:

Bill Paxton (Hudson):

“I love shooting guns. That’s like the best part of my job.”

Michael Biehn (Hicks):

“I got a really good sense of handling weapons when I did The Terminator because I had that shotgun throughout, and I was always firing off weapons and working with, with uh, you know, the guns.”

Bill Paxton:

“Oh, I’ve shot a few weapons in a couple different situations, and I grew up in Texas. I shot a lot of shotguns and stuff like that.”

Jenette Goldstein (Vasquez):

“I’ve never shot a gun before. I’m actually frightened of guns. You know. It doesn’t take any imagination for me to pretend that it’s a real weapon.”

Al Matthews (Sgt. Apone):

“Well, y’know I suffer from the Vietnam syndrome. If you point a gun at me I’m gonna shove it down your throat. I’m sorry to say that. (Laughing) Sorry gang! But that’s the truth. If you point…

“So, uh, we have things where everyone’s instinct is to automatically put their fingers on the trigger. Well they stopped doing that on the set with me, because I don’t have it. I really don’t have it. It’s an instinct. That’s the way I was trained, thank you very much America. Uh, that’s how I was trained because you put your finger when you’re talking or you’re waving your weapon around, I’m gonna jam it down your throat. I gotta do that.”

“At some points, we’re using blanks. Uh, blanks can hurt people. And so if everyone’s aware of, of what it is that they’re actually walking around with, I want each and every one of these people, which they have already done, they’re starting to fall in love with their guns. I know it sounds very silly, but, from a military point of view, it’s correct.”

Remember that quote. There’ll be a test at the end…

I was very pleased to see Al Matthews’ interview piece. Excellent!

However:

Sigourney Weaver, filmed during the original shooting of Aliens:

“I don’t think Ripley is a gun person. At all. And I want to make sure that in those scenes, although I look like I’m handling it, I don’t turn into a Marine. I’m not a soldier. I never wanna be a soldier.

“The thing that scares me about the guns is that after you’ve been using then a couple of days, you go ‘Oh, well, you know, this is…’ you know, it, you sort of get into it. And I think that’s what happens to people with real guns, and I think, I think Jim Cameron’s very anti-gun too, in his own way, but yet I think he’s fascinated by them in a way that I’m not.

“I don’t like that feeling you get after you’ve shot off a few rounds of “I’m Immortal” you know. It’s just.. garbage.”

So, familiarity breeds contempt. Or, in the case of some of the actors, love. For an “anti-gun” guy, Jim Cameron’s made some hellacious gun advertisements blowup movies.

But wait! There’s more!

Sigourney Weaver, filmed for the 2003 special edition release:

“There were moments on Aliens where I had to shoot stunt dummies who were dressed as aliens. I would have to shoot stuntmen who were moving as aliens. And, um, I always thought it was amazing. We rehearse it, of course, in detail. But then they kinda left it to me. I mean I know they were blanks, but still the.. I mean, what if I’d flamed a real person, you know? They trusted me completely. And I have to say that once you start shooting, you get to lik… you know, the, the target practice alone was, you know, very, like (growls) you know. (With a smile.)

Putting on my amateur psychoanalyst’s jacket…

So, Sigourney Weaver, gun hater, was trusted to use a flamethrower and a (blank-firing) gun on the set. Other people trusted her completely. Apparently she doesn’t trust herself and finds the concept somewhat disturbing and encouraging at the same time. She admits – almost – to liking to shoot the set weapons. She found it, let’s say, primitively exciting, but at the same time the fact that she liked it frightened her.

One thing I think that is common among the really strident anti-gun people is the fear of responsibility, and they see guns (quite rightly) as a large responsibility. They don’t think themselves worthy of it. They fear a loss of control. Or they fear an inability to handle it. Not that evil brain-warping waves will cause them to rush out and commit mass murder, but that they just aren’t responsible enough to have a gun. Since they have found themselves unworthy, they don’t trust others to handle that responsibility either, because hey! They’re just average people like everyone else, right?

After all, they have so many examples to point to of people who misuse guns both criminally and negligently, they must be right.

Right?

This letter to Kim du Toit (fourth one down the page) is illustrative of that mindset. An excerpt:

I thought, all my life, that I couldn’t own a gun safely, that no one could, really. Guns were dangerous and icky. Even after I realized that the Second Amendment was not quite the shriveled, antiquated appendix I’d been taught, for a couple of years or so I still wobbled around with the training-wheel comfort of believing that while not all gun owners were necessarily gap-toothed red-necked fascist militia whackos, I myself ought not to own firearms. I was too clumsy and careless, and guns were still dangerous and icky.

Read the whole thing, and Kim’s response. I’ll still be here when you get back.

Some who get over their inner misgivings actually learn to shoot. Many of them lose that fear, learn that they are responsible, and begin to see the flaws in gun control philosophy. Some “get into it.” They learn to like guns – something Sigourney Weaver fears. Few of us develop an “I’m Immortal” sense of power. Guns don’t make you immortal. Only fools think that. But some stay fearful, and never learn to be responsible for themselves. They depend on others exclusively to do the difficult, dangerous stuff.

I think the difference between Americans in general and the “anglicized” English is that most of us believe we’re at some level personally responsible, and that along with that responsibility comes at least a little agressiveness.

I’d much rather have Lance Henrikson as a neighbor than Sigourney Weaver. And I think having Bill Paxton or Michael Biehn on the other side would be a blast.

I hope that America doesn’t ever lose that aggressive edge. It’s important in more than just casting.

(Edited to correct the spelling of “aggressive” – which I know has two “g’s” – dammit.)

Too Little, Too Late (I Hope)

It appears that the pressure is on now to renew the Assault Weapon Cosmetic Legislation Ban.

The GOA is reporting that Sen. Diane Feinstein is looking for a bill to which she will attach a renewal amendment, and that’s being covered by Publicola, the Geek, and others.

Meanwhile the Brainless Brady Bunch are sending out recruitment emails – as usual – filled with fear-mongering lies. Reader Ben, a stealth member of “StoptheNRA.com” – a subsidiary of the Bradyacs – was kind enough to send me a copy of their latest list of lies. Let us fisk:

Dear Friend,

If you are going to get involved in renewing the Assault Weapons Ban … the time is now. Congress is in session for only 30 more days before the ban expires later this summer. If the ban isn’t renewed, in most states, new assault weapons will be sold at gun shows without even a background check.

LIE #1 & #2. If it’s new it will be sold by a FEDERALLY LICENSED FIREARMS DEALER – who, by the way, can sell new “post-ban” weapons right now. And all FEDERALLY LICENSED FIREARMS DEALERS MUST run a background check whether they sell the gun at a gunshow or at their shop. So there’s two lies here. Regardless of whether the ban expires, you can buy a new “post-ban” weapon that lacks a few cosmetic features, but you’ll get a background check anyway. Or you can buy a “pre-ban” rifle from an individual sans background check, also regardless of whether the ban expires. Only the price will change.

That means assault weapons could be sold to anyone: criminals, gang members, drug dealers, and terrorists.

And this is different under the existing conditions exactly… how? If the first argument is wrong, this one doesn’t improve it.

Our advertising campaign starts next week and it is crucial that we maintain it throughout the summer. We need your support to renew the ban. We can’t do it alone. CLICK HERE TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION.

Just a heads-up. And as for that contribution? I wouldn’t piss on you if your head was on fire.

Over 75 percent of Americans agree that the Assault Weapons Ban must be renewed. Every police organization in the country, religious groups, educators and scores of other mainstream organizations agree.

If true, it might have something to do with the way you and groups like you LIE TO THEM. Ya THINK?

In fact, there is only one group in the country in favor of letting the ban end: The National Rifle Association. And so far President Bush is listening to the NRA over every other constituency.

We cannot let this ban expire. Here’s what happens if the NRA wins:

And let’s count the lies, shall we?

1. In most states, eighteen-year-olds will be able to walk into gun stores and buy new American-made AK-47s.

Which they can do RIGHT NOW.

2. In many states, it will be possible to bring concealed TEC-9 assault pistols, loaded with thirty rounds of ammunition, into bars, churches and sports arenas, and even public schools or universities.

Which can happen RIGHT NOW. The “ban” didn’t make the guns go away, it just changed the way they look. All those thirty round magazines are still out there.

Fearmongering like this REALLY PISSES ME OFF!

3. In many states kids as young as 13 will be able to buy brand new American-made AK-47s at gun shows and through the classifieds.

Current FEDERAL LAW, 18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(1), (c)(1), prohibits firearms dealers from selling or delivering a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any person the dealer knows or has reasonable cause to believe is under the age of 18. Dealers are prohibited from selling or delivering other firearms (e.g., handguns) or ammunition for those firearms to any person the dealer knows or has reasonable cause to believe is under the age of 21. STATE law controls transactions between private parties. As of right now if a 13 year-old has $1,000 laying around he can probably purchase just about anything he wants, if he knows the right people. The AWB DOESN’T ADDRESS THE QUESTION.

More fearmongering.

4. New assault weapons will be advertised over the internet.

Hmm… Bushmaster, DSA, DPMS, and there are a lot more. The product line will simply broaden again. But if you want to BUY one, you still have to go through a FEDERALLY LICENSED DEALER.

5. New rapid-fire ammunition magazines that allow guns to fire up to 100 rounds without reloading will be mass-produced and sold on a cash-and-carry basis to anyone, with no questions or background checks.

Oh Jeebus, I hope so! Standard capacity magazines are way overpriced these days.

Here’s how you can help renew the ban:

1. contribute to our campaign (Bite me!)

2. sign our petition if you haven’t yet (Ditto!)

3. forward this mail to everyone you know (Posted it on my website. Happy?)

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani said in a past presidential race that he would find it hard to back any candidate who favored repealing the federal assault weapons ban. “Someone who now voted to roll back the assault-weapons ban would really be demonstrating that special interest politics mean more to them than life-or-death issues.”

Good thing nobody has to “vote to roll back the assault-weapons ban” isn’t it? All they have to do is just let the useless, irritating thing die a natural death.

More later.

Of that I have no doubt.

Thank you for your support.

No, thank YOU, you morons.

UPDATE 6/5: Publicola reports that Diane Fienstein has introduced her AWB renewal bill, S2498, in the Senate. At first blush it appears to be a simple 10-year extension of the existing cosmetics ban. Co-sponsors are the usual suspects:

Barbara Boxer (CA), Lincoln D. Chafee (RI), Hillary Clinton (NY), Michael DeWine (OH), Christopher Dodd (CT, Jim Jeffords (VT), Frank Lautenberg (NJ), Carl Levin (MI), John Reed (RI), Chuck Schumer (NY), and John Warner of Virginia.

Time to start writing and calling your congresscritters.

NOW.

Some Other Results of My Research

The piece on self-defense in the UK was long enough by itself, but I found quite a few pieces I didn’t want to just leave out. I’ll just put them here for your reading enjoyment RCOB experience.

First, let’s take a look at how the British police are handling crime. First up, a story from 2002 that shows that the cops understand implicitly what their limitations are, and just who they can and can’t intimidate:

Police fail to stop rave

A Lincolnshire farmer has accused police of failing to stop illegal ravers from taking over his sheds on New Year’s Eve.

David Benton, of Moorby, said about 70 revellers smashed down his farm gate, drove a lorry-load of disco equipment onto this property and set fire to pallets.

He called Lincolnshire Police, who sent two officers, but said ravers could not be evicted because there were fewer than 100 trouble-makers involved.

Mr Benton, 44, said: “I will defend my property, and I will use violence if I have to if this happens again. The police have already said they will arrest me if I do.”

‘Totally irresponsible’

“Anybody must be able to defend their own property.”

“It was like being a farmer in Zimbabwe – the police stood outside the gate while inside people were smashing up my property and they were doing nothing about it.”

Lincolnshire Police said officers could only intervene to break up rave parties if certain criteria were met.

Inspector John Ginty stressed: “The law states that there must be more than 100 people in the open air, causing a public disruption – those conditions were not met in this case.

They weren’t in the “open air” because they were in David Benton’s BARN.

That’s enough of that. You read the rest.

Then there’s this lovely bit of news from December of 2003:

Don’t bother about burglary, police told

Police have been ordered not to bother investigating crimes such as burglary, vandalism and assaults unless evidence pointing to the culprits is easily available, The Telegraph can reveal.

Under new guidelines, officers have been informed that only “serious” crimes, such as murder, rape or so-called hate crimes, should be investigated as a matter of course.

In all other cases, unless there is immediate and compelling evidence, such as fingerprints or DNA material, the crime will be listed for no further action.

The new “crime screening” guidelines were quietly introduced in the Metropolitan Police area last month and similar measures are being brought into effect by forces across Britain as pressure grows on senior officers to maintain a tighter control over budgets.

A Met spokesman confirmed that “less serious crimes” would now only be investigated if they were considered to be “solvable using proportionate resources”, or were part of a current crackdown on specific offences. He said: “It might mean that people who have had their bikes stolen from outside a shop might not get any investigation into it. It is looking at the high priorities for crime in the community.”

The Met’s policy document states that when crimes are of a less serious nature and there are no “special factors”, such as a particularly vulnerable victim, they will now be logged but not solved.

That might help explain this story from May of 2003:

Misery of couple ‘burgled 192 times’

A couple say they have become prisoners in their own home after being burgled 192 times in four years.

Rita Redfarn and Bruce Charter, of Earith, near Ely, Cambridgeshire, say they fell prey to burglars for the 192nd time after leaving their house unattended for the first time since the New Year.

“We decided to go out for two hours and obviously were being watched or had been seen in the local pub,” Ms Redfarn said.

“It’s just been hell here for four years.”

Since 1999 property worth hundreds of thousands of pounds has been taken from the couple’s £475,000 Victorian house, its two-acre garden and outbuildings.

Jewellery worth up to £7,000 was taken in the latest raid alone.

The couple can no longer get insurance cover.

I’d imagine not. There’s a bit more to the story, but here’s the kicker:

Police Inspector Richard Douce, said: “Officers in Ely are aware of the continued problems at the address in Earith and have worked with Mr Charter in the past to look at the security at his house and outbuildings.

“Over the next week officers will be reviewing the problem, which will include drawing up a new action plan – in conjunction with Mr Charter – to tackle the problem.”

After four years and 192 incidents. I’m sure Mr. Charter is greatly relieved.

Of most everything he owns.

But here the police are on top of the job! Someone might be defending themselves! Can’t have that!

Police swoop on 4ft 10in granny

A DISABLED grandmother who tried to film yobs terrorising her neighbourhood was ordered out of her home by a police Swat team who suspected she was armed and dangerous.

Terrified Maureen Jennings, who is only 4ft 10in tall, received a call from a police negotiator at 1.30 am telling her to look out of the window of her bungalow.

A police Armed Response Unit had surrounded the house and Mrs Jennings, who suffers from a chronic heart condition and diabetes, was told to put her hands in the air and step outside while police searched her home.

“I could have had a heart attack and dropped dead on the spot”, she said today.

“I opened the door with my hands in the air and four big policemen and two policewomen came in. I explained it was a camera and I was taking photographs of what had been going on on the estate.

“I am a four and half foot tall midget, and I am disabled and they asked me if I had any weapons in the house. The next day a police constable spoke to me and said that they usually just burst into the house but that they had checked me out and because I’d never been in trouble with the police they decided to ring me first.”

The drama began after Mrs Jennings, 50, had used a digital camera with an infra-red directional beam to film youths who have made her life a misery for the past two years.

She has regularly complained to police about the gang on The Moss estate in Macclesfield but claims that officers rarely bother to investigate.

Terrible

But when police received a tip-off that Mrs Jennings was armed, the force’s Armed Response Unit immediately went into action.

Mrs Jennings has been using the camera after a string of complaints to police failed to stop the gang terrorising the neighbourhood.

The gang congregate most nights on her garden steps and at a phone box opposite her home. She suspects they are responsible for vandalising her car.

“It is terrible living here,” she said. “We’ve all had enough and I can’t sleep at night.”

“I have had them boozing and taking drugs on my front steps. I can’t take this anymore. Doctors have sent notes to the council because of what it is doing to my health. But nothing ever happens.

“I love my bungalow but I want out of this estate. It is ruining my life.”

Macclesfield police said several youths had been “grounded” by parents after officers visited. Some have been threatened with Acceptable Behaviour Contracts and one faces an Anti-Social Behaviour Order.

“The Moss Estate area was given special attention by officers during the days following the incident and several of the young people involved, and their parents have been spoken to,” the officer said.

Senior Housing Officer Richard Christopherson was confident that the troubles on the Moss would be resolved.

He said: “I would very much like to go speak to this lady. If she can give some descriptions of these people I am sure we will be able to identify them. What we are doing is looking at the gang and finding out about the ringleaders and building up our evidence.”

This story would almost, almost be funny, except for these two stories that show that the behavior of these “youths” is hardly unusual:

Yobs drove man to kill himself

The widow of a disabled man who killed himself after being repeatedly attacked by young yobs at his Midland home last night backed calls for a “Tony Martin’s Law”.

Teenage hooligans terrorised Martin James, 64, so many times that he eventually fired an air rifle at them to scare them off – and landed himself in trouble.

Instead of tackling the louts, who had also vandalised his property, police threatened the despairing householder with prosecution for daring to use the firearm.

Days later Mr James hanged himself in his garden shed after leaving wife Angela a note bearing a heart-breaking message that summed up his misery.

“I’m sorry,” he wrote. “The kids have beaten me.”

At the inquest into his death, coroner Alan Crickmore said that “a campaign of torment” had led Mr James to take his own life last August.

Angela met her husband, a retired demolition contractor, while using Citizens Band radio. They were married for 13 years but the constant harassment from youths put an enormous strain on Mr James.

“Every night they were there,” said former British Telecom worker Angela. “They used to shout abuse and throw stones at our windows.

“There’s a cemetery at the back of our house. They used to hang out there and shine torches into Martin’s bedroom at night.

“Once they tied a fishing line and hooks to our door handle. I didn’t realise and I went to grab it as usual, I felt something sharp on my knuckle.

“They knew that they could wind Martin up. He just wouldn’t stand for their loutish behaviour.

“The police didn’t help. He even went to the parents of the yobs but they said there was nothing they could do.”

Angela recalled how her husband had picked up the airgun to defend their property.

“Martin shot at them with an air rifle a week before he died,” she said. “He aimed it above their heads so it wouldn’t hit them.

“But the police later told him that he could be prosecuted.

Gloucestershire Police said they sympathised with Mrs James and said they had offered her husband advice on how to deal with anti-social behaviour.

Chief Insp David Peake said: “We take all such calls seriously and will investigate incidents that are reported to us.”

Investigate, but do nothing to stop it.

Nor is this the first case like this. Here’s another:

Let the force be with the good guys…please

What are people to do if the police can’t help them to solve major problems of lawlessness affecting their lives? Sometimes, desperation forces them to take matters into their own hands.

Bill Clifford, a 77-year-old war veteran tormented for months by local yobs who banged on his door, threw stones at his windows and shoved eggs through his letter box, eventually brandished a toy pistol at them to try to scare them into leaving him alone.

The police, who according to his brother had earlier told him that they couldn’t do anything unless Mr Clifford caught the youngsters up to their mischief, did something now. They arrested Mr Clifford and charged him.

The day before he was due to appear in court, he hanged himself in the kitchen of his one-bedroomed housing association home.

Residents of the Oxmoor estate in Huntingdon decided last Sunday afternoon that they’d had enough of the problems caused by drug dealers and addicts. They were sick of dealing taking place in public, and of discarded needles lying about the place posing a threat to their children.

“The police know it’s going on but they don’t seem bothered,” one woman told a reporter after the estate erupted into a six-hour riot.

For once, the police turned up on the estate in force. Sixty officers were called in to tackle the mob, arrest a dozen troublemakers and escort the dealers to safety.

“While we recognise the residents’ concerns and are willing to work with them, it is clearly not appropriate for them to engage in this type of behaviour,” a police spokesman warned afterwards.

And I agree. Vigilante behaviour is the start of a very slippery and dangerous slope. But I ask again, what are people supposed to do if the police won’t or can’t protect them?

If the police had acted sooner to sort out the drugs menace on the Oxmoor estate, there would have been no need for the residents to riot.

If the police had acted to protect Bill Clifford from the tearaways who were making his life such a misery, he would have had no need to try to see off the yobs with a toy pistol and would be alive now, enjoying the rest of his days in the peace which should be everyone’s right.

The police are undermanned. There is no doubt about that. They need a huge boost to their resources and I for one would have no objection to paying extra taxes to help fund it.

But they only deserve it if they’re prepared, even with the limited resources they currently have, to show more enthusiasm for looking after law-abiding citizens when they ask for their help, and less for protecting the bad guys when the long-suffering good guys finally start to stick up for themselves.

Are you beginning to see a pattern here?

Oh, and remember the bit about women having the inherent right to kill a rapist? Well, they really shouldn’t, according to this piece:

Advice to resist sex attackers may make it worse, rape charity warns

A charity caring for rape victims warned yesterday that advice in Cosmopolitan to fight back when attacked could leave women with more injuries than offering no resistance.
“Sometimes it is far better just to let it happen and then deal with the aftermath,” said Helen Jones, co-chairwoman of the Rape Crisis Federation.

She was responding to a report in the magazine of a study by US researchers who examined 1.5m cases over a decade. They found that women who offered resistance were much more likely to get away, and that whether or not women resisted a rapist had no bearing on the level of injuries they received.

They also suggested that the first five minutes of an attack were decisive, and found the best response was to go for “pain receptive targets” in an attempt to disable the attacker for as long as possible. “There are, of course, no guarantees, but one thing seems clear – it is worth fighting back,” the magazine concluded.

Ms Jones, a criminologist, said that the article could leave women who had been raped feeling guilty and responsible for what had happened, because they had done nothing to beat off the attack.

“It could also increase the potential for women being harmed,” she added. “It is not always right to fight back. There is a phrase put around that rape is a fate worse than death. Of course it is not.

“Every case is different, and women can only assess each particular situation and the likely danger to them if they do resist. Doing that in a split second is extremely difficult.”

The magazine report suggested that effective defences included poking fingers or thumbs hard into eyes or throat, pulling hair, pulling fingers back to break, and squeezing or kicking the groin.

Self-defence tutor Floyd Brown, quoted in the magazine, said: “Remember, you are trying to maximise your safety margin. You want to disable the attacker for as long as possible while you escape.”

Scott Lindquist, author of the Date Rape Prevention Book, added: “Trust your instincts. If one tactic isn’t working, try another.”

The report said: “Some rapists will stop when forced into adult reasoning mode and faced with the consequences of their actions. Tell him this is rape, someone will find him, he will go to prison. Other methods are throwing the rapist off guard by faking an epileptic fit or pretending to faint or urinating, defecating or sticking fingers down the throat to induce vomiting as few people can stand the smell.”

Since 1985 recorded rapes in Britain have risen threefold. In 1999 the Rape Crisis Federation received 50,000 calls, yet it estimates only 6% of these women reported the assaults to the police.

Detective Chief Inspector Jim Webster, of the Metropolitan police steering group on sexual offences, said that women who were attacked could go “as far as is necessary”. He said: “By law you have a basic right to defend yourself with ‘reasonable means’, and if the crime is rape, you can defend yourself well.” He recommended all women attend a self-defence course to give them the confidence to respond quickly.

No, according to the law if the crime is rape you can defend yourself with lethal force – but apparently you’re limited to using “adult reasoning” and “poking fingers or thumbs hard into eyes or throat, pulling hair, pulling fingers back to break, and squeezing or kicking the groin,” none of which – last I checked – were particularly lethal.

And now let’s skip to the subject of gun control in the UK, shall we? The most recently passed piece of legislation banned a certain type of “easily convertible” airgun. Yet guns, and more lethal weapons, seem pretty easy to get anyway. Here’s a case where a guy was machine-gunned to death, not that this was necessarily a bad thing:

Shot man was teen rapist

The young dad gunned down on a city street was a convicted rapist, the Evening Mail can reveal today.

Dad-of-two Mohammed Sabir was involved in the gang rape of a young woman in front of her baby when he was just 15 years old. People who knew about his evil past today declared: “We are not going to mourn his death.”

Sabir was riddled with bullets as he stood chatting with pals in Lozells Road on Monday night.

The 22-year-old died despite a nurse, known only as Elizabeth, giving first aid as he lay on the pavement.

A post-mortem examination revealed Sabir, who had a one-year-old daughter and a son aged four, had been hit several times in the head and chest, possibly with a mini sub-machine gun.

Police today declined to disclose his previous convictions but have already confirmed that Sabir, who lived in Lozells with his parents and young family, was known to them before he died.

And machineguns aren’t all that uncommon, even though they’ve been banned since the 1930’s. Not heavily regulated, like they are here, but completely banned:

GANG HAD MACHINE GUN

Three members of a suspected Yardie hit team who were caught with a lethal machine gun and military hardware face years behind bars.

Marvin Herbert, 30, Darryl Hewitt, 32, and Paul Murdoch, 32, were spotted by police throwing a fully-loaded Ingram machine gun and silencer over a garden wall.

Officers found the gang were also equipped with body armour, balaclavas and high-tech radio scanners programmed to listen in to police frequencies.

US Army weapon

The Ingram, a US Army issue weapon capable of firing a devastating 20 rounds a second, had its safety catch off.

Woolwich Crown Court heard the trio were stopped by police after being spotted acting suspiciously in Hargrave Park, Holloway, north London in the early hours of August 1 last year.

Mark Rainsford, prosecuting, said: “The police driver noticed that the three men stopped whatever they had been doing.

“One of the men was seen to throw a large dark object over a wall into a garden.”

Stolen Mercedes

Police officers detained them and after a search, discovered the gang had dropped three balaclavas and a set of keys to a stolen Mercedes parked nearby.

The lethal machine gun was also loaded with extra-heavy Israeli-issue ‘blue-tip’ bullets.

They are specially designed to travel slower than the speed of sound so they do not cause a ‘gun crack’ sound when fired.

Herbert and Murdoch were both wearing bullet-proof body armour.

Go read the rest. Ignore the photo – that’s not an Ingram, and, to my knowledge, the Ingram has never been a “US Army issue weapon.”

I’ve covered other stories of machine-guns in England, too. There’s this story of an intercepted shipment of Uzi submachineguns, and here’s one about an honest-to-jebus LMG found in a London raid. Here’s one where a gang went on a ‘shooting rampage’ across London with an SMG. There are more, but you get the idea.

Here’s one that’s a bit of a shocker. In addition to all the American, Israeli, and East European hardware being smuggled across the water, it seems there’s a market for personal explosives, as poor Mrs. Ester Jonas discovered when someone lobbed a hand grenade into her home and took her leg. This guy was lucky – he just found one in the road. Where it came from, no one is saying. Here they found a live grenade in a railway tunnel. Of course, you don’t have to import them if you can get them domestically while you’re out for a beer.

But, machineguns and hand grenades aside, it doesn’t seem all that difficult to get a shotgun. Or a handgun.

Because gun crime in the UK has been on the rise, according to this Telegraph piece, the money quote being:

Firearms offences in England and Wales rose from 13,874 in 1998-99 to 24,070 in 2002-03. Recorded crimes involving imitation weapons trebled from 566 to 1,815 during that period.

A separate report by Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary, also published yesterday, showed that two thirds of gun crime was concentrated in London, Birmingham and Manchester, though it has spread to a number of other areas.

Response? Ban some airguns! This piece from October of last year puts some perspective on the problem:

We are overrun by gun crime, says police chief

A chief Constable admitted yesterday that his officers are being forced to ignore thousands of burglaries, thefts and car crimes because they are swamped by increasing drug and gun violence.

The public’s perception that the police were not interested in low-level and non-violent crime was underlined when Steve Green, Chief Constable of Nottinghamshire police, said there was not enough money or officers available to investigate all crime.

The emergence of Britain’s drug and gun culture had impacted on his force to such an extent that “something had to give”.

Yes, Britain’s draconian gun laws have worked so well in keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals the law abiding.

But this opinion piece said something I think illustrates a significant part of the problem, and I will close this post with it:

“There Was Violence Used”

For today’s liberals, crime is like the weather—it has nothing to do with human agency.

In March (2003), thieves broke into the home of Mrs. Adu-Mensah, an 83-year-old Ghanaian woman living in South London. Not content with stealing her property, they bound her hand and foot, suffocating her to death, and then set her body alight. The Independent, one of the newspapers favored by Britain’s liberal intelligentsia, reported without comment that the police were investigating the possibility that the crime was “a break-in that went wrong.” I couldn’t help thinking of the way surgical procedures with fatal outcomes used to be described: the operation was a success, but the patient died. In this case, the burglary was a success, but the householder died.

In the Independent’s report, we see how deeply and unconsciously entrenched a perverted way of thinking has become in the minds of much of the British establishment. Thugs break into an old lady’s home and murder her in the most brutal way imaginable, and the police consider her death as an unintended consequence of a normal and even acceptable event, a kind of meteorological freak accident that occurred without the intervention of human agency. A journalist, almost certainly a university graduate, accepts this without demur, because it happily coincides with his newspaper’s liberal outlook. It was not the burglars that killed Mrs. Adu-Mensah, but the burglary. A cold front brings us bad weather; a burglary brings us a charred corpse.

If caught, the perpetrators of this horrible crime will no doubt also claim that the crime went wrong, that unexpected circumstances somehow perverted their good intentions: their burglary having a kind of Platonic existence independent of their decision to commit it. In like fashion, violent men and women are likely to say that their relationships went wrong, as if relationships existed independently of how people behave toward one another. Last week, I asked a man who was complaining that his wife had deserted him whether he had ever been violent toward her.

“Yes,” he said. “There was violence used” – used, no doubt, in the course of an argument that went wrong.

Of course, man has always sought to distance himself from responsibility for his own wrongdoing by ascribing it to forces beyond his control. Is there, in fact, a man alive who has never done so? Four centuries ago, Shakespeare remarked upon the “admirable evasion of whoremaster man, to lay his goatish disposition on the charge of a star.”

What is relatively new, however, is the willingness, even eagerness, with which intellectuals endorse, promote, and validate the admirable evasion. Murders are now committed by burglaries, not by murderous burglars. Not all men are whoremasters, of course: but all too many of our intelligentsia are.

And it’s bled down from the intelligentsia. Now juries can decide, 10-2, that someone who has acted defensively in the insanity of defending one’s family from an intruder, that “excessive force” was used, and the defender is guilty of manslaughter.

Hindsight being 20/20, of course.

The (considerably less than) Million Moms chanted at their first (and only) big rally: “England can do it! Australia can do it! We can too!

Not if I have any say in the matter.

Canadians Still Trying to Kill the Registration Beast

(Hat Tip, CenterDigit.)

Let’s see what the Montreal Gazette has to say, shall we?

The Martin government is letting slip tantalizing hints that it might do something about Canada’s $1-billion gun registry. We are told that this has nothing to do with the election expected on June 28. Still, we can’t help but note that if there were a political dimension to this, we would be seeing just what we are seeing now: acknowledgement of a problem but no specifics of a solution. Any precise step might cost votes.

Something certainly has to be done about the registry. The government’s own estimates show that the cost of this thing, first estimated at $2 million, will reach $1 billion by next year and could climb past $2 billion within the next few years. To date, about 7 million firearms have been registered, leaving an estimated 1 million unaccounted for.

If there were some irrefutable proof that the registry had led to a decrease in the number of murders and suicides, Canadians might will support it, despite its astronomical cost. Unfortunately, proof of a cause-and-effect nature is hard to come by. It might be, as Calgary criminologist Mahfooz Kanwar said earlier this year, that any control on guns can help, and that eventually the registry will have an impact. But $1 or $2 billion is a lot to spend on a “might be.”

It certainly starts off promising. Wow. As much as $2 BILLION? I hadn’t heard that. But of course it goes South, so to speak:

The question then becomes whether there is a cheaper, more efficient, less invasive way to lower the incidence of gun crimes.

Keeping U.S.-made guns out of Canada would certainly help. As many as half the handguns recovered by Toronto police, and 75 per cent of the handguns associated with Toronto homicides, have been smuggled across the U.S. border. These are not weapons likely ever to be registered. More border guards and police officers, and better equipment at the borders, would help fight this plague.

Yeah. All that really helps keep the drugs out, doesn’t it? And it’s not like Canada has all that much firearm violence in the first freaking place. For example, the very next sentence:

There is also the matter of Canada’s 131,000 convicted criminals who have been banned from owning firearms.

Wow. A whole 131,000! But check this!

The registry does not keep track of them. Last winter, for example, the Toronto Star reported that Daniel Greig, on parole and prohibited from owning guns, illegally acquired the following weapons: a six-shot, .44-calibre Smith & Wesson; a .45-calibre Block semi-automatic; a .45-calibre Heckler and Koch semi-automatic; a 12-gauge Franchi pump-acton shotgun with a pistol grip; an M-16; a .223-calibre Colt semi-automatic assault rifle and several rounds of ammunition.

Obviously “gun control” works as well in Canada as it does in Chicago, D.C. and London.

And we should be surprised….why?

(And what the hell is a “.45 Caliber Block semi-automatic”? Please, please tell me that was just a typo that an ignorant editor missed.)

But of course the problem isn’t that gun control doesn’t work, oh no! Instead it’s the same excuse gun ban control organizations down here use – “loopholes”:

There are too many holes in the current legislation.

But at least the piece recognizes the – EXPENSIVE – futility of the registry:

The screening falls far short of protecting the public. The follow-up of known risks is also totally inadequate. These are areas where money should be spent.

Turning the whole mess over the RCMP, which is one of the options recently offered to the government, is not a solution. Easing the burden on long-gun owners would perhaps make the registry less unpopular, but would make it no more useful.

Punishing gun crimes is a good idea. Rigorous enforcement of laws limiting access to guns, especially for those with a criminal or violent history, is a good idea. But fiddling with the registry and then throwing good money after bad is not a good idea.

Next up, the Star Phoenix from Saskatoon has a similar op-ed on dumping the registry, but there was also this excellent – but troubling – op-ed.

Gun legislation a failure, let us count the ways

Lloyd Litwin

When you start a diet program, it doesn’t matter where you start from or what sociological factors prompted it. What matters is the gains or losses after you start. If the weight goes down you are on the right track. If there is no loss or the weight goes up, then you are doing the wrong thing. If you spend a lot of money for negative results the whole exercise should be scrapped and a different approach should be tried.

This sensible and simple analogy was presented by Dr. Gary Mauser at the recent seminar sponsored by the Canadian Unregistered Firearms Owners’ Association. His research and publications showed some interesting trends.

If you listen to the anti-gunners, the mere presence of guns will increase the rates of homicides, suicides and violent crimes. So Canada and the United States should be the worst places to live. Admittedly, the U.S. has the highest incidence of gun crime. So it’s the fattest kid at the gym. But if we look at the last 10 years, the results from the U.S. contradict other countries’ attempts to solve the problem.

The rate of decline of gun-related crimes in the U.S. is better than Canada’s. It’s also much better than in Britain and Australia. Countries where they have banned and confiscated guns are seeing crime rates rise significantly. The U.S. diet is working; ours is not.

That’s a little simplistic, but technically accurate.

The anti-gunners like to point to suicide statistics as proof Bill C-68 in Canada is working. Indeed, gun suicides are going down, arguably due to the increased complexities and scrutiny in obtaining a gun. However, the total number of suicides is not changing. People bent on destroying themselves turn to other methods. So again the expensive experiment has failed to achieve one of its stated purposes.

I have taken the suicide statistic problem on before. Gun banners control proponents have combined suicide and homicide to show just how big a problem guns are, but they never seem willing to do that in comparisons between nations, nor do they note that reducing suicide by firearm never seems to affect suicide overall – but the claim is that people who kill themselves with firearms might live if firearms weren’t available because firearms are so much more lethal than other methods. Well apparently not. Apparently if you really want to kill yourself, you find a way. Method is immaterial to “success” rate when it comes to suicide.

The day at the seminar was filled with other speakers from Victoria to Halifax relating their own experiences and giving their explanations as to why the latest round of gun control is a waste of time, money and effort. But they were preaching to the converted. The audience was known supporters. The only skeptics were the three media reporters who came to question Dr. Mauser in the middle of the afternoon. Their questions would have had more relevance if they had bothered to sit in on his whole presentation.

What, you expect reporters to do background? Why, that might affect their bias! impartiality!

A lawyer from Arizona (that would most probably be David Hardy, a man I would very much like to buy lunch some day) made a good presentation that shocked us, then got our minds into a mode of re-evaluating our methods. First, he showed a video that documented the tragedies of the modern world; the extermination of more than 150 million people since 1900 by governments which started the process by outlawing the public from owning guns. Once disarmed the people were defenceless.

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. And disarming is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

For me the most intriguing discussion was the message about using the proper language in our own defence. For example: Gun control is a physical description. It’s used when handling the gun. You control it at all times to be safe.

The political movement happening now is properly called people control. It should be criminal control, but the government has missed the target and set up all these rules to control the law-abiding citizen. When they get around to requiring criminals to register where they live and when they move, under penalty of law, then it will be criminal control, not gun control as it is mistakenly now called.

Excellent observation. And “people control” is what is responsible for that “decades-long slow-motion hate crime” I mentioned below.

But the last line is the truly disturbing part of this piece:

And finally a profound statement: The constitution was written to protect people from the government, not to protect the government from the people.

Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s just Canadians who find that “profound” in the sense of “difficult to fathom or understand.” It’s the result of our dumbing-down in education and the fact that most students coming out of our government run daycare centers known as public schools have no real knowledge of American History or our government.

They’ve made it a point to paint government as the source of manna, rather than a necessary evil, best watched closely and with a gimlet eye.

Tom Diaz Scares Me

Because I don’t think he’s too tightly connected to reality. Tom is one of the principals of the Violence Policy Center which is dedicated to banning handguns.

Our buddies at JoinTogether have published one of his op-eds. Let us fisk:

Had Enough Yet?

by Tom Diaz

It’s an All-American story. Nebraska University soccer star Jenna Cooper throws a barbecue in her home to celebrate the season’s end. Two men argue over stolen shot glasses. One whips out a handgun.

Jenna Cooper, 21-years old, on the cusp of life — talented and loved by her team, her family, and her friends — is gone, taken by a stray bullet fired in anger.

The Lincoln, Nebraska chief of police remarked that Jenna Cooper happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. With all due respect, chief, sir, that is not the problem. The problem is that America is awash with firearms hyper-marketed by a relentless and unregulated gun industry. If a Saturday night barbecue in your own home is the wrong place at the wrong time, what’s left? Not much. There is no right place and right time anymore. How about the office. Bad idea.

Note: Tom doesn’t place any blame on the shooter, but on the gun industry. Anybody see a problem with that?

A co-worker might come in packing to settle an obscure score that has been sloshing around in his cranial brew for years. What about church, or synagogue, or mosque? Nope, that’s been tried. Angry, gun-toting people cork off there, too. Churches have been shot up, even priests officiating masses. Ditto, synagogues and mosques. Schoolyards, the Empire State Building, shopping malls, even the U.S. Capitol have been turned into shooting galleries.

All the fault of gun manufacturers – not the shooters. And not all guns, only handguns.

Except churches, schoolyards, shopping malls et. al have all been shot up by people with rifles, too.

Oh, yeah, and the road rage shooters are out there, waiting to be crossed. One of them just might take the occasion of your flight to safety to decide that you are in too big a hurry, made too sharp a turn, or just plain look like a good candidate for road kill. Had enough yet?

The real problem is that there is barely a crevice left in American life in which the handgun has not taken root. Someone wants to argue over a shot glass or two? Just pull out your argument settler and pop off a round. End of argument.

Again: It’s apparently not the fault of the shooter, but the GUN INDUSTRY.

Now Tom really runs off the rails:

It wasn’t always that way. The American gun industry — one of only two consumer products in America free of federal product health and safety regulation (the other is tobacco) — has created this nightmare.

It has deliberately changed the mix of firearms sold in America over the last 30 years. It has done it because, unlike many other consumer industries that follow population growth, the gun business has faced saturated, declining markets. So it has relentlessly pushed new models of handguns to stimulate sales.

Excuse me? Last time I checked, the market is what drives innovation. If the industry builds it and nobody wants it, that product fails – but Tom is convinced that the industry somehow holds its product to American heads and forces us to buy. Here’s his “evidence”:

This was described some years ago in a magazine called American Firearms Industry: “Without new models that have major technical changes, you eventually exhaust your market. . . This innovation has driven the handgun market.” The most spectacular change in the U.S. civilian firearms market since the end of the Second World War has been the rise of the handgun. In 1946 handguns were only eight percent of firearms sold. Beginning in the mid-1960s this changed.

Handgun sales are now twice the level of 40 years ago, consistently averaging about 40 percent of the overall market. Not only that, the industry is making handguns smaller and more powerful so they can be concealed more easily and do more damage when used. The Austrian company Glock, one of the biggest handgun marketers in America, dubbed its contribution the “Pocket Rocket.”

Let’s stop right there for a moment. Remember, Tom has just built the case that handguns are responsible for turning various places into “shooting galleries,” that handguns represented only 8% of firearms sold, at least in 1946. Now, does that suggest to you that Tom is making the case that homicide rates were much lower in those halcyon days back when handguns were such a tiny percentage of all firearms? Well, here’s a graph of homicide rates in the U.S. from 1900 through 2000. Bear in mind, those rates continued to decline through 2003.

See anything wrong with Tom’s premise?

So those corny old movies and nostalgic television shows are right. In 1946, you could go to a party and maybe somebody would get angry. Maybe a punch or two would be thrown. But it would be darned rare for somebody to pull out a Pocket Rocket and start shooting. Not because people were better then, but because handguns were scarce.

Um, no Tom. Because “pocket rockets” weren’t invented until much later. But what about 1929? Would it have been rare then for someone to have pulled a “gat” and started shooting? Was it the eeeeevil gun manufacturer’s fault then?

Not any more. Now every husband who decides to come home and pop the wife has a handgun readily at hand. Every depressed kid or senior who wants to end it all has a handgun. And every nitwit who wants to feel like a big man at a barbecue has a handgun.

Right. The gun fairy just leaves it under the pillow.

There are a few ideological fantasists who are so hooked on the power of the gun that they claim the answer is simply more guns, to arm more people so they can “defend themselves” and “shoot back.” Jenna Cooper was enjoying a party. The bullet that hit her in the neck and took her life first traveled through another guest’s scalp.

How in the name of blessed reason could she have defended herself from that bizarre sequence with yet another gun? The answer is she couldn’t. Sure, get mad at the guy who shot her. Punish him. But don’t fantasize about blazing gun battles to teach that punk a thing or two.

And don’t blame the wrong place and the wrong time.

Here I actually agree with Tom. He’s correct on this – single – point. But he’s absolutely wrong in his conclusion:

Blame America’s gun industry for putting the gun in his hand.

I have, over the last few weeks, written piece after piece decrying the philosophy of the gun banners. They proclaim that the guns are at fault. That if they could only get rid of the guns none of this would happen. I have shown example after example from that gun-control utopia of England illustrating how even after implementing every single policy supported by gun control forces, gun crime there went up. And as a result, because the philosophy cannot be wrong, the response has been “do it again, only HARDER!

Tom Diaz exemplifies this mindset. Tom seems to believe that guns are the cause of this violent behavior. That all we have to do is disarm everybody, and THESE. CRIMES. WILL. STOP.

Well, he’s partly right. If the government banned all handguns and demanded that they all be turned in, it’s possible that somewhere somebody might not get shot in a fit of anger. But it’s also possible that law-abiding people might not be able to defend themselves against the criminals who will not hand theirs in. It’s one of those “unintended consequences” that they don’t bother to consider.

Tom wants us all to be safe. He wants security. That’s not a bad thing to want, really. I think Tom suffers, though, from the same problem that is exhibited by most people who hate guns – a lack of trust in their fellow man. I wrote an essay on that topic I entitled TRUST, inspired by another who feared guns, rather than the people willing to misuse them. That piece is the counterpoint to Mr. Diaz’s philippic. Give it a read.

And then think about the path England has chosen, and ask yourself if you really want us to follow them.

The Philosophy CANNOT Be Wrong! Do it AGAIN, Only HARDER!

Ravenwood links to this news report under the heading of “UK still doesn’t get it

Blunkett orders overhaul of outdated firearm laws

The Government will attempt to tackle Britain’s gun culture with plans to be unveiled this week for an overhaul of outdated firearms laws.

Really? Outdated?

Let’s see:

1920 saw the introduction of registration of all handguns and rifles.

1936 saw the banning of all privately possessed fully-auto weapons and short-barreled shotguns.

As of 1946, “self-defense” was no longer an acceptable reason for issuance of a firearm license.

In 1953 the Prevention of Crime Act made carrying any “offensive weapon” in public a crime.

The Criminal Justice Act 1967 added shotguns to the registry. And jury trials no longer required a unanimous decision. (If they still did, Tony Martin, the farmer who shot two burglars – in the back – would never have gone to jail. His was a 10-2 decision.)

In 1982 reloaders and blackpowder shooters were made subject to warrantless inspection by police to “ensure safe storage.” Yup, the cops can come into the house without a warrant and inspect the premises.

In 1987 most semi-auto and pump-action shotguns and all rifles of these types were banned and (the legally-owned ones) confiscated.

In 1997 all handguns were banned and (the legally-owned ones) confiscated.

In 2004 a certain type of airgun has been banned. Possession of one without a license will now bring up to a 5-year sentence.

But England’s gun laws are outdated and in need of an overhaul.

Right.

David Blunkett, the Home Secretary, will publish a consultation document which is expected to lead to tougher restrictions on the sale and manufacture of replica firearms as well as new age limits on gun ownership, especially for airguns, starter pistols and shotguns.

What, no new restrictions on the few rifles still in circulation?

The consultation follows lobbying by the police and anti-gun campaigners who say Britain’s gun laws are confused, out of date and in desperate need of reform.

Meaning “It’s still legal for some citizens to own projectile weaponry! THIS MUST END!

Of particular concern are replica firearms which are popular with gun collectors and can be bought legally but are being converted by criminals into lethal weapons to fire live ammunition.

Next up: Zip guns!

Economics 101: Supply will always rise to meet demand.

Police say that the greatest increase in gun crime is linked to a rise in the use of imitation weapons and converted airguns. In London alone, at least 70 per cent of weapons now seized by officers are converted replicas.

Only because they’re the easiest to get – right now.

Last November, the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Gun Crime published a report calling for a complete ban on the import, sale and manufacture of replica firearms.

Remove the word “replica” from that sentence, replace it with “anything even resembling a” and you’d have the gist of the entire gun control movement.

There has also been a rise in attacks on people involving airguns. Last week, a firefighter was shot in the face by an airgun pellet as he drove a 24-ton fire truck along a street in Dumfries, Scotland.

And the airgun is obviously at fault, right? If the hooligan hadn’t had the gun, he wouldn’t have been tempted in the first place. It’s those evil brain-altering mindwaves that guns give off that cause these acts, after all.

Ministers have already brought in some measures to curb gun crime in Britain.

You don’t say! You mean, like that list I gave above that didn’t reduce gun crime a damned bit?

Last month, new anti-social behaviour laws came into effect which included a new imprisonable offence of carrying a replica gun in public.

I love that. Anti-social. What a lovely expression.

The legal age for owning an airgun has also been raised from 14 to 17 and it is now an offence to buy a weapon for someone under 17. But the ban on underage ownership only applies to Brocock-style airguns, which operate using a gas cartridge, and not to all types of airguns.

“Which must be amended, because we cannot have our youth corrupted by actually learning to shoot!”

A Home Office source confirmed that the consultation document would cover all aspects of gun-control legislation. “We will be seeking people’s views on all aspects of firearm legislation. We are looking at the whole issue, although replica and imitation firearms are of particular concern,” the source added.

Left unstated, however, is that people who legally own guns – that tiny minority – need not give their views. Their opinions are not needed or wanted.

Anti-gun groups have welcomed the planned reforms, which are the first major overhaul of firearms laws since 1997, when the Government introduced a ban on handguns after 16 schoolchildren and their teacher were killed at Dunblane primary school in Scotland.

I bet they have. Especially since the conclusion of the inquiry into the Dunblane massacre specifically recommended against the handgun ban that resulted. Note, please, that all the laws enumerated above did not prevent Thomas Hamilton from legally having the handguns he used at Dunblane.

Once again, it’s the gun that is at fault. Remove the guns and the problem will vanish, goes the philosophy.

The Gun Control Network, which campaigns for tighter arms control, said Britain lagged behind other countries because it did not have a universal age limit on people buying guns. “In our increasingly violent world we need to … tighten up on our gun laws,” said Gill Marshall-Andrews, chairwoman of the GCN. “The world-wide pressures are for … an increase in global gun violence.”

“Tighten up?” They’re so tight now you squeek when you walk. And now the push – lead by the UN – is for global gun confiscation control.

And the U.S. remains the evil poster-boy for it. Here we still give more than mere lip-service to the idea of a right to arms.

Barbarians.

But any restrictions on gun ownership are expected to face fierce opposition from the British Association for Shooting and Conservation, which represents gun enthusiasts.

Oh, right. They’ve been so effective in the past.

The cognitive dissonance here is really incredible to me. They’ve tried and tried and tried to reduce violent crime – specifically violent crime involving firearms, for over eighty years – and failed miserably. One definintion of “insanity” is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. But the philosophy cannot be wrong! Do it again ONLY HARDER!

Gun Rights = Anti-Socialism

Ravenwood reports that, once again, the perpetually panty-twisted are up in arms over another “loophole” in Britain’s ever-more-stringent gun elimination control law (designed to make everyone safer.)

Gun law ‘loophole’

CAMPAIGNERS have called for a “loophole” in the law to be closed after the Manchester Evening News bought a potentially-lethal handgun – legally in a city centre shop.

On the same day new legislation on air guns came into force, we paid £200 ($358!) for a new German-made Walther CP88, a powerful airgun, which could maim or even kill within a distance of 10 metres. (That’s about 30 feet for us Yanks.)

The CO2 gas-powered gun – which is indistinguishable to the untrained eye from a genuine firearm – can fire off eight rounds in quick succession.

OOH! It’s a high-capacity “weapon of mass destruction!”

Bear with me.

Our purchase on Saturday just hours after new controls were introduced by the government.

(Um, that’s not a complete sentence in the English I learned. Poor editing?)

The Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003 made it an offence to manufacture, sell, transfer or acquire air weapons that use a self-contained gas cartridge system to fire pellets.

The WHAT?

It’s anti-social to “manufacture, sell, transfer or acquire air weapons that use a self-contained gas cartridge system to fire pellets”?

Are we using the same language here?

For those of us who really believe that the evil that is socialism is spreading, that one sentence is a great big red flag waving in the wind.

It’s anti-SOCIAL, and the State cannot abide by behavior that is anti-social.

Firearms enthusiasts who already owned one were required to obtain a £50 ($90!) firearms certificate from the police by Friday, April 30.

Anyone now found with one of these guns could be liable to a minimum five-year prison sentence. But the Manchester Evening News has established that some potentially-lethal air guns can still be bought legally without checks or licences.

We bought the CP88 in T Stensby and Co on Shudehill. Their staff acted completely within the law as the .177 air gun falls outside the new legislation.

It is powered by gas cartridges which must be inserted into the handle and which must be replaced on average every 80 shots.

The air guns which are banned under the new law are designed with self-contained gas cartridges, which look like real bullets.

Once again the legislature passed a gun control law. Once again, the refrain from the gun-phobes is “IT’S NOT STRICT ENOUGH!!”

Disgusted

The “loophole” has infuriated anti-gun campaigners Mothers Against Violence, a group set up to fight the gang and gun cultures in south Manchester.

Spokesman Sheila Eccleston, whose son Dean, 24, was shot dead in Longsight on October 9, 2001, said: “I’m absolutely disgusted.

“I would like to see all these guns banned. We go into schools to tell kids about the dangers of the gangs and guns and what message does this give to them?”

It tells them, I would hope, that you’re horribly misguided at a minimum. But it’s nice to see another group come out and vocally advocate what we all know the leadership of the gun control groups here actually want, but dare not voice. (Except the Violence Policy Center – I will give them credit for being forthright about wanting to ban all handguns.)

Paul Kelly, chairman of the Police Federation in Greater Manchester, has called for a ban on the sale of guns like the Walther CP88.

“Anything designed to be an absolute replica should need a licence in the same way as a real firearm,” he said. “And so should any weapon that has working parts and can be converted to accept real bullets.”

As I pointed out before: That would be the license scheme that failed to reduce gun crime? That would be the license scheme that let the government know who owned guns legally but had no effect on those who had them illegally? That would be the license scheme that allowed the government to demand that all legally held handguns be handed in because they were banned? That would be the license scheme that didn’t prevent an increase in handgun-involved crime after the confiscation?

See the cartoon immediately below this piece for a visual representation of the goals of gun control groups. Here’s another sterling example.

Linda Mitchell, spokesman for the Gun Control Network, set up in the wake of the Dunblane massacre, said: “All air weapons are lethal, full stop. They are capable of serious injury and there have been deaths. We really need to see legislation that covers all air weapons.”

Now, shall we look at this engine of death and destruction?

Here’s a standard version:

Yup, looks very much like a real firearm. I can see some cause for concern, seeing as almost no one in England has any real experience with handguns with the exception of the military and police.

And criminals, of course.

Or it could have been the really evil 6″ barreled version with “compensator”:

That would surely make victims wet themselves at its mere appearance.

But here’s the specs on this “powerful airgun, which could maim or even kill” (which, by the way, sells for about $165 here in the States.)

Velocity, 4″ barrel: 380fps.

Velocity, 6″ barrel: 400fps.

If that’s not enough for you, this web page discusses how to wring every last erg of muzzle energy out of the gun. It’s obviously written by a terrorist!

Now, here’s some information on the various horrible projectiles fired by this awesome engine of destruction. The .177 caliber pellet comes in a variety of weights, ranging from about 6.5 grains (0.015 oz) to about 11.5 grains (0.026 oz) Yes, those decimal places are correct. Just to give you an idea, a standard paper clip weighs about 6.6 grains. Obviously the lighter pellets will be faster, the heavier pellets slower. They come in various shapes for different purposes:

The round one is generally known as a “BB” from “ball bearing.”

The size in the image is obviously not to scale. A .177 caliber pellet is (surprise!) 0.177″ in diameter. How big is that? Oh, about the size of the hole in a Cheerio cereal piece. The hole, not the Cheerio.

But a pellet that size, massing about as much as a paper clip, is supposedly lethal out of this infernal engine of mass destruction!

It is true that there have been deaths attributed to airguns, but not pipsqueak air pistols like these. No, the guns involved in fatalities are without exception much more powerful (and usually larger caliber) RIFLES that fire heavier projectiles at velocities in excess of 1,000 feet per second.

And even then it takes either an act of complete idiocy or an act of God to kill somebody with one.

As the commenters at Ravenwood noted, this reminds me of the scene in National Lampoon’s Vacation where Clark pulls a gun to get in to Wally World:

(John Candy) That’s a BB-gun. Are you kidding?

(Chevy Chase) This is a Magnum-PI.

(Candy) That’s an old wives tale Clark. It couldn’t even break the skin.

(Chase) Yeah it could, yeah it could. It could break the skin and start a very ugly infection.

And so could the Walther CP88.

But the English subject must fear these “potentially-lethal air guns” because the press says that it is so!

“England can do it! Australia can do it! WE CAN TOO!”

Not here.

Not if I have anything to say about it.

More on Those “Terrorist-Grade” Weapons

First covered here, it appears that those 7,500 semi-automatic fully-auto bayonet-equipped rifles with “cartridges holding 30 rounds” were legal after all.

Yesterday’s admission by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) that the agency had issued import permits for a shipment of approximately 7,500 AK-47s and other assault rifles from Romania clearly demonstrates the need to significantly strengthen the federal assault weapons ban as well as the separate set of rules that apply to imported firearms, the Violence Policy Center (VPC) stated today.

Not just renew but “significantly strengthen.” Not just the AWB, but import laws as well.

It didn’t work, so do it again, ONLY HARDER

The shipment, initially seized by Italian authorities who suspected the weapons were being smuggled into the U.S., was in fact headed for Century International Arms, an assault weapon importer. Century International Arms sells a wide variety of firearms, including imported assault weapons, that can be viewed on the company’s website located at http://www.centuryarms.com. VPC Legislative Director Kristen Rand states, “This situation starkly demonstrates the gaping loopholes in the federal assault weapons ban, as well as the Bush Administration’s lax and irresponsible enforcement of the separate rules that apply to imported firearms.”

Because the current federal assault weapons ban – set to expire on September 13, 2004 – is too weak, it cannot stop the import of such weapons. Under the separate law that applies to imported firearms, the Bush Administration has clear authority to exclude such guns from import, but ATF’s weak interpretation of the statute allows the import of AK-47s and other assault weapons.

I find it really interesting that the original definition of “loophole” was “a small hole or slit in a wall, especially one through which small arms may be fired.” So we have “gaping loopholes,” “irresponsible enforcement,” and “weak interpretation.”

And that has been the gun-control mantra since this argument began. No matter what they pass, it’s never enough. It doesn’t affect gun violence, but it can’t have been an error in the philosophy, they just didn’t implement it properly. Even after England banned all semi-auto weapons and all handguns and gun crime went up, it wasn’t evidence of a failure in the policy, but insufficient implementation.

This is the definition of “cognitive dissonance.”

Rand states, “There are two possible ways to fix this. One, the Bush Administration can halt such imports with the stroke of a pen using existing executive authority that applies to the import of firearms that are not suitable for ‘sporting purposes.'” President George H.W. Bush exercised this authority in 1989 to temporarily halt assault rifle imports after Patrick Purdy, armed with an imported AK-47, killed five and wounded 30 in a California schoolyard.

“The other way to remedy the situation is for Congress to pass a strengthened federal assault weapons ban that clearly bans these imports. The current federal ban is too weak. It simply does not apply to these guns. If the current federal assault weapons ban is merely renewed, imported AK-47s and other foreign-made assault rifles will remain perfectly legal,” adds Rand.

Don’t hold your breath, Kristen. Neither of your ideas will “fix” the problem, and if you weren’t so blinded by your fixation on guns as the cause of the problem, you’d understand that.

Here’s the AP story on the legal importation of these “terrorist-grade” weapons:

AK-47s headed to U.S. had legal permits

By CURT ANDERSON
The Associated Press
4/28/2004, 3:13 p.m. CT

WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S.-bound shipment of thousands of AK-47 assault rifles and other combat-type weapons, seized by Italian authorities who suspected they were being smuggled, actually have legal permits to be imported, American officials said Wednesday.

About 7,500 AK-47s, AKM rifles and other weapons worth an estimated $6 million were seized April 20 aboard a Turkish-flagged ship in the port of Gioia Tauro. They were bound for New York from Romania.

At the time, Italian authorities said the guns were hidden aboard the ship.

But Andrew Lluberes, spokesman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the weapons actually were cleared by U.S. authorities. “The permits are valid,” he said.

A 1994 law prevents the U.S. gun industry from making, importing or selling military-style semiautomatic weapons.

Apparently not.

But under ATF regulations, a properly licensed company can ship such weapons to a “custom bonded warehouse” in the United States. There, they are disassembled and their key firing components destroyed. The remaining parts can then be reconfigured into a weapon that will meet the letter of the 1994 law and can be sold legally in the United States.

Two U.S. law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the weapons seized in Italy were being shipped to a Century International Arms Inc. facility in Georgia, Vt. The company’s Internet site bills Century as “North America’s largest importer/exporter of surplus firearms and accessories.”

An official at the company, which is based on Boca Raton, Fla., refused to comment Wednesday.

Good for them. Apparently CAI shares President Bush’s feelings as regards the media.

Dean Boyd, spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said American and Italian authorities continue to investigate the case. The weapons remain in Italy.

Why? They have legal importation permits, why hold them?

And what about those deadly “assault Mausers”? Were they properly permitted, too?

I Pound My Head Against the Wall Because it Feels So Good When I Stop

(We now return to our original programming)

Tim Lambert and I are attempting to discuss self-defense and weapon regulation. In an odd mix of blog comments and posts that is probably hard for anybody but us (and maybe even us) to follow, this is the latest entry in that exchange. It started with this post, continued in the comment section, then that spawned this later post by Tim. I could not reply in the comment section of that post, so my response is below, here. Tim’s response to that is in the comments to that prior post. Whew! And now I’m responding here.

A bit more background: The problem here, as I see it, is that Tim and I have entirely different perspectives based on entirely different philosophies. The philosophy that I believe Tim adheres to has led to the disarmament of UK citizens under the mistaken belief that it would make them safer. I believe, as I stated earlier, that Tim and other proponents of that philosophy suffer from cognitive dissonance – an inability to recognize the error of the philosophy, as most accurately described by Steven Den Beste:

When someone tries to use a strategy which is dictated by their ideology, and that strategy doesn’t seem to work, then they are caught in something of a cognitive bind. If they acknowledge the failure of the strategy, then they would be forced to question their ideology. If questioning the ideology is unthinkable, then the only possible conclusion is that the strategy failed because it wasn’t executed sufficiently well. They respond by turning up the power, rather than by considering alternatives. (This is sometimes referred to as “escalation of failure”.)

Because of Tim’s cognitive dissonance he is forced to dismiss or ignore anything that doesn’t fit the philosophy. Thus, when I ask the question,

And how is a woman to exercise her presumed inherent right to lethal force against a rapist if she’s denied any means with which to do so?

three times, he finally replies with:

Restrictions on weapons might make self defence more difficult in some cases, but they can also make it easier in others.

Isn’t that comforting?

The first question Tim asked me in his latest post was:

(Y)ou asserted that the statement “self defense in the UK is illegal” is “practically true”. If you acknowledge that you can defend yourself without a weapon, then surely you must concede that your statement is false?

Let’s see what I’ve said about that question so far, in chronological order:

The law there seems to be one based on “proportional response” – e.g., stabbing someone who isn’t armed with a weapon is “excessive force.” So is bashing them over the head with a brick. There are many of these cases, and they’ve lead us to the conclusion that private citizens in Britain had best not resist attack, or face prosecution for usurping the authority of the State in its monopoly on the legitimate use of force.

The appearance is that, as I said, the government guards jealously the legitimate use of force. Proles should not overstep their restrictions.

Do you find the law prohibiting honest citizens from carrying any weapon suitable for self-defense, while the law ostensibly allows you a right to defend yourself somewhat schizophrenic?

The jury is supposed to take your “instinctive” response to being attacked into account, but if you use a weapon in your defense you’re immediately assumed to have had it for offensive purposes. Am I misunderstanding the (il)logic here?

Tim, the law prevents anyone from carrying anything for self-defense. A knife, pepper spray, a club, a taser, anything.

As the law has (apparently) been interpreted (and I believe it was intended) the presumption on the part of the Government is that if you carry a weapon, any weapon, you are guilty of the intent to do criminal bodily harm. Yet the law gives lip service to the concept of the right to self-defense.

Is there or is there not a right to self-defense? English law says there is, yet its laws concerning weapons make self-defense, for all intents and purposes, a lost cause. The facts are that possessing, much less using anything that the State considers a weapon makes you a criminal in its eyes. It does not seem to legally recognize any legitimate use of force by any non-government actor.

There are no “offensive” weapons. They’re just weapons. Or tools. (A hammer makes quite an effective weapon. So, apparently, does a walking stick .) A knife can be a tool or a weapon as well. Pepper spray or mace can be used to disable a victim as well as an attacker . Same for a taser, or an axe handle. So too for firearms.

It’s not the weapon that carries the intent – it’s the user. Yet the UK government has seen fit to tell the entire population “You’re not trustworthy. You cannot be trusted with any weapon, because of the chance you might use it to inflict bodily harm upon another.”

At the same time, it tells them that they have a right to inflict bodily harm upon another in defense of themselves – all the way up to homicide in the case of rape – but that the infliction of harm must be restricted to a reasonable level.

Who gets to decide what was reasonable? A JURY. Which means, if you use force effectively in your own defense, especially if you used any weapon in that effective defense, you stand a very good chance of being charged with excessive use of force, and placed on trial. After all, seems to go the reasoning, if you were able to effectively defend yourself, if your attacker is wounded and you are not, or if your injuries are less serious than his, you weren’t in real danger and/or you de facto used excessive force.

That high risk of prosecution effectively chills the right to self defense. Who wants to risk court? Just the costs, not to mention the possibility of conviction? The inability to have or use a weapon in your defense also chills the right. If you are overmatched, what use is resistance?

I’ve said that, for those so willing (a firearm is) the BEST TOOL FOR THE JOB (of self-defense). But as Mr. Lindsay demonstrates, it’s hardly the “only way.” Your conclusion that my “argument is logically flawed” is based on your fallacious understanding of my argument.

That’s seven times I’ve tried to make my position perfectly clear. Here’s what Tim has said in response:

I think your arguments would be more persuasive if you could actually come up with a case that supports the position that self defence is not allowed.

Kevin, you seem to be equating self defence with guns. This is doubly wrong. First, guns are far more frequently used for offensive purposes than for defensive ones. And second, guns are not the only means for self defence.

To explicitly answer your question: No, I do not find the law to be schizophrenic. Restrictions on offensive weapons do not make it impossible to defend yourself.

Restrictions on weapons might make self defence more difficult in some cases, but they can also make it easier in others (because the attacker does not have a weapon). The net effect could be to make it easier or harder on average. It certainly isn’t to make it impossible.

Even if there are some rare situations where a gun is the only possible means for defence, it does not make the statement that “self defense in the UK is illegal”, since that is a general statement describing all situations.
(Emphasis mine.)

Despite learning that Lindsay had chased the robber out of his home and stabbed him in the back four times, in the comments and on his blog Baker continued to insist that self defence was illegal in practice in the UK. His argument was that England’s “laws concerning weapons make self-defense, for all intents and purposes, a lost cause”. His argument is badly wrong for two reasons.

1. Using a weapon is not the only way to defend yourself.
2. If the law disarms attackers, then it can make self defence possible where it would have been impossible if the attacker was armed.

Baker’s response on the first point is to focus on cases where a weapon might actually be the only way to defend yourself…

And finally,

(Y)ou asserted that the statement “self defense in the UK is illegal” is “practically true”. If you acknowledge that you can defend yourself without a weapon, then surely you must concede that your statement is false?

We’re using the same words, but apparently speaking different languages.

So here you go, Tim: English law says, as I quoted:

Section 3 of the Criminal Law Act 1967 provides that a person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime, and the question of reasonableness is subject to the amplifications contained in such cases as R v McInnes and R v. Palmer. It has been held that “if a jury thought that in a moment of unexpected anguish a person attacked had done only what he honestly and instinctively thought was necessary, that would be most potent evidence that only reasonable defensive action had been taken.”

and

One of the most important limitations on the use of weapons is of course that they cannot be carried or used to injure other people.

so weaponless self-defense is not statutorily illegal. Self-defense involving any weapon is legally risky. In both cases excessive force is to be judged by a jury. I think I said that several times. I think I was pretty clear about it, but if not, there it is in black and white.

Tim’s second objection is:

You claimed that what I was implying was: “Honest citizens should never use a weapon in self defense, and the government is honestly doing everything it can to disarm everybody so that you can successfully defend yourself in your unarmed state.” I never said anything like “Honest citizens should never use a weapon in self defense”. Kindly refrain from stuffing words into my mouth. I do not appreciate it.

What I said, verbatim, in response to your assertion of If the law disarms attackers, then it can make self defence possible where it would have been impossible if the attacker was armed.” was:

Nice of you to admit that last point. Big “if” there at the start, though. Because what you are saying here by implication is “Honest citizens should never use a weapon in self defense, and the government is honestly doing everything it can to disarm everybody so that you can successfully defend yourself in your unarmed state.”

Tim, that’s how it translates to me. If that’s incorrect, please explain, in detail, exactly what you did mean.

Tim continues:

You continue to insist that “laws against weapons have essentially no effect on the access to weapons by criminals”, claiming that the English experience somehow illustrated this. You then write extensively about the violent crime rate England. But this is not even relevant to your claim, since it includes violence done without weapons.

Not relevant? Why? As I pointed out – REPEATEDLY – by disarming the law abiding it leaves them essentially defenseless against violent criminals, armed or not. All the criminal need be is physically superior to his victim, or (should he desire) the criminal can be armed, knowing almost as a certainty that his victim won’t be. If criminals need not fear effective resistance then they will be emboldened. I pointed to England’s experience with violent crime over the course of the 20th Century, noting that the real upswing in violent crime began just shortly after passage of the law that made illlegal carry of any weapon for defense on the grounds that there are no “defensive” weapons for the general public, only “offensive” weapons by definition. Yet those same weapons, when held by government officials, are considered “defensive.” I gave a hypothetical example of weaponless self-defense, and then added two conditions that made weaponless self-defense even more hazardous. Tim did not comment.

Tim continues:

In 2000, England had about 4,000 with-gun robberies while the US had 170,000 After allowing for six times as many people in the US, the rate is still seven times higher in the US. This hardly proves that the laws made the difference, but the evidence is not on your side.

To me that isn’t as important as the fact that England, according to the British crime survey, suffered 276,000 robberies in 2000, and the U.S. about 408,000. With six times England’s population, that makes the English rate four times the American rate. Tim evidently considers the higher rate of robberies involving firearms to be worse than an overall much higher rate of robberies period. I do not concur. That is apparently the disconnect between our two philosophies – as long as the perpetrator doesn’t have a gun it seems, the crime committed has less importance. I don’t want to be the victim of a robbery, period, and I think that government policies that “restrict” my chances of successfully defending myself against them are immoral.

Now, I suppose, we’ll start trading statistics again?

Tim concludes:

I also note that you did not comment on the Kleck quote I gave. Do you concede that the “overmotivated criminal” is a fallacy as Kleck argues?

The pertinent part of the Kleck quote was this:

Like noncriminals, however, criminals do many things that are casually or only weakly motivated.

(I)t is not all impossible for crime prevention efforts to be achieved among the more weakly or temporarily motivated criminals who make up the large part of the active offender population.

Specifically as it comes to guns, Kleck is correct, but by disarming the citizenry and by making it legally risky to use weapons in self defense, it is safer for “weakly or temporarily motivated criminals” to commit crimes against other people. They don’t need a gun to be successful. Physical superiority, a knife, a steel bar, or even a broken bottle is all that is needed.

An here’s the pernicious part, what I believe is the unintended consequence of a philosophy that considers all weapons in the hands of non-government agents to be “offensive weapons,” one that does not recognize that citizens can carry a weapon with defensive intent: Those “weakly or temporarily motivated criminals” learn that violent crime is lucrative, easy, and low-risk, and with each new success they become emboldened to do it again. This draws others to do it as well, just as the lucrative illicit drug industry constantly attracts new “talent.” Easy money. Some percentage of those “weakly or temporarily motivated criminals” become professional or at least semi-professional at it, and are willing to carry the tools of the profession.

This is a long-term trend, and I believe the history of violent crime in England illustrates this. The rising level of violent crime in England as a result of the failure of the philosophy that “all weapons are offensive” forced the government to become ever more restrictive towards the general citizenry without affecting the ever rising levels of violent crime. In combination with other failed social policies, particularly social welfare and criminal justice reform, disarming the general public has resulted in a polity with the highest level of violent crime in the developed world.

Still unwilling to admit the error of the philosophy, the government continues its congnitive dissonance and “escalates the failure” by announcing a desire to end of “double-jeopardy” protections and trial by jury for some crimes. Another incremental step toward what would be, for all intents and purposes, a police state, not a free nation.

All of this justified, apparently, by a fear of firearms.

UPDATE, 5/2:

I made an error in this post, which Tim pointed out:

Oh, and you blew the comparison of robbery rates. You have compared the survey measured robbery rate in England with the police reported robbery rate in the US. The police reported number in England is 78,000 (it’s right next to the 276,000 figure you reported) that’s roughly the same rate as you get with 408,000 robberies in the US once you adjust for population.

He was quite correct. I was wrong. I have apologized and clarified my position in a later post.