Stream of Consciousness

It’s interesting (at least to me) the things that go “click!” in my head while I’m reading stuff. Things I come across throughout the day, or the week, or the month will ferment in the recesses of my psyche until they’re distilled into a thought. Or they just rot back there until flushed away…

Anyway, due in part to our recent sparring sessions, I spent some time this afternoon back over at Tim Lambert’s Deltoid where last week I took a Myers-Briggs Type Indicator test that told me I was an INTJ (Introverted iNtuitive Thinking Judging) personality type. I didn’t at that time follow the links to see what that was supposed to mean, but I did note that Tim’s type was INTP (Introverted iNtuitive Thinking Perceiving,) not far at all from mine. This evening I went back and followed the links and read this assessment of the INTJ personality type:

To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of “definiteness”, of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise — and INTJs can have several — they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don’t know.

INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion “Does it work?” to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. (Guilty!) This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake.

INTJs are known as the “Systems Builders” of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability. Whatever system an INTJ happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play, as INTJs can be unsparing of both themselves and the others on the project. Anyone considered to be “slacking,” including superiors, will lose their respect — and will generally be made aware of this; INTJs have also been known to take it upon themselves to implement critical decisions without consulting their supervisors or co-workers. On the other hand, they do tend to be scrupulous and even-handed about recognizing the individual contributions that have gone into a project, and have a gift for seizing opportunities which others might not even notice.

In the broadest terms, what INTJs “do” tends to be what they “know”. Typical INTJ career choices are in the sciences and engineering, (Guilty!) but they can be found wherever a combination of intellect and incisiveness are required (e.g., law, some areas of academia). INTJs can rise to management positions when they are willing to invest time in marketing their abilities as well as enhancing them, and (whether for the sake of ambition or the desire for privacy) many also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality.

Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ’s Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). (Also guilty!) To complicate matters, INTJs are usually extremely private people, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand. Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. (Absolutely, positively guilty!) This sometimes results in a peculiar naiveté, paralleling that of many Fs — only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.

Probably the strongest INTJ assets in the interpersonal area are their intuitive abilities and their willingness to “work at” a relationship. Although as Ts they do not always have the kind of natural empathy that many Fs do, the Intuitive function can often act as a good substitute by synthesizing the probable meanings behind such things as tone of voice, turn of phrase, and facial expression. This ability can then be honed and directed by consistent, repeated efforts to understand and support those they care about, and those relationships which ultimately do become established with an INTJ tend to be characterized by their robustness, stability, and good communications.

I found this fascinating, because the actual personality test is laughably simple, but this description fits my personality to a tee. My wife emphatically agrees. She told me to frame the printout for future reference.

Then I read the personality profile for Tim, INTP:

INTPs are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them.

Precise about their descriptions, INTPs will often correct others (or be sorely tempted to) if the shade of meaning is a bit off. While annoying to the less concise, this fine discrimination ability gives INTPs so inclined a natural advantage as, for example, grammarians and linguists.

INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to most anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.

A major concern for INTPs is the haunting sense of impending failure. They spend considerable time second-guessing themselves. The open-endedness (from Perceiving) conjoined with the need for competence (NT) is expressed in a sense that one’s conclusion may well be met by an equally plausible alternative solution, and that, after all, one may very well have overlooked some critical bit of data. An INTP arguing a point may very well be trying to convince himself as much as his opposition. In this way INTPs are markedly different from INTJs, who are much more confident in their competence and willing to act on their convictions.

Mathematics is a system where many INTPs love to play, similarly languages, computer systems–potentially any complex system. INTPs thrive on systems. Understanding, exploring, mastering, and manipulating systems can overtake the INTP’s conscious thought. This fascination for logical wholes and their inner workings is often expressed in a detachment from the environment, a concentration where time is forgotten and extraneous stimuli are held at bay. Accomplishing a task or goal with this knowledge is secondary.

INTPs and Logic — One of the tipoffs that a person is an INTP is her obsession with logical correctness. Errors are not often due to poor logic — apparent faux pas in reasoning are usually a result of overlooking details or of incorrect context.

(Portions in red are my emphasis.)

Tim is a professor of Computer Science and Engineering at the University of New South Wales, Australia.

Then, later this evening I was reading Megan McArdle (Jane Galt) concerning the Rice testimony before the witch hunt, err, 9/11 Commission, wherein Megan said:

The energy expended trying to blame this failure on someone–George Tenet, Louis Freeh, Condoleezza Rice, or whoever–goes beyond mere regular partisan bashing. It seems to me to express an underlying conviction that of course someone could have stopped this – it’s only a question of who. For the commission, especially, it’s an unacceptable answer; they simply cannot turn to a frightened American public and tell them that it’s really too bad, but we live in a scary world.

Not that this is any kind of earth-shattering revelation, but it struck me – once again – how it is that people justify civilian disarmament to themselves.

It’s somebody else’s responsibility to stop evil.

If one is detached from, and even oblivious to the world around them; if one is immersed in the theoretical without acknowledging what actually works versus what is ideal; then one can build a philosophy that justifies acknowledging a right to self-defense, but at the same time justifies complete civilian disarmament. That philosophy must deny that “we live in a scary world,” and it must rely on someone else to be responsible. In this case, some unknown person or persons in the employ of the government. The idea that it’s a scary world and that people in this world do evil things with intent is something that has to be avoided, because it runs contrary to the philosophy. The philosophy says that if everyone (save the government) is disarmed, then people will stop doing bad things. If you are attacked, the responsible party is not the attacker, it’s that ephemeral other who is responsible for your safety and failed to secure it.

It’s a wonderful theory, but it doesn’t match reality.

It doesn’t WORK in this scary world we live in.

On the other hand, from a pragmatist’s viewpoint (mine), recognizing the actual risk means acknowledging that my probability of being on the receiving end of a violent encounter is pretty damned low – but non-zero. I know what I know, and I’m acutely aware of what I don’t know. It also means acknowledging that the odds of a government official being present to protect me and mine is at the critical moment approaches even closer to zero, so I’d prefer the option of being armed – just in case. I therefore strongly object when others, who don’t seem to acknowledge that “we live in a scary world,” want to tell me I can’t because doing so is in violation of their philosophical world-construct.

I acknowledge their world-view. I just understand that it’s wrong.

I guess that appears as “simple arrogance to the less decisive,” eh?

Remember: Only Four More Days Until BAG Day II!

Aaron reminds us that April 15 fast approaches. Not Tax Day, but Buy A Gun Day II.

I’ve already got mine, the Makarov I bought for my birthday. But if you got something back from Uncle Sugar due to Dubya’s tax cuts, consider picking up something that’ll piss off Michael Moore or Diane Feinstein, or at least get their panties in a bunch. Consider what you have to choose from!

A “Saturday Night Special” (for those of you with less discretionary cash,) an inexpensive firearm like a used S&W Model 10 .38 Special revolver.

A “Pocket Rocket” – for those a bit more well-heeled – a small handgun in a large caliber, like a Kimber Ultra CDP II

For those of you who prefer long guns, how about an “intermediate-range sniper rifle,” as the VPC likes to call them? In this case a Savage 10FP. (Yowsa! I’d like one of those!) or something less pricey, like a standard Model 10 GXP package. Either one will let you “reach out and touch” your target.

Or, for you scattergun enthusiasts, perhaps something for home protection? (Already got mine.)

And, of course, the pièce de résistance (assuming you aren’t willing to wait for the sunset of the AWB) there’s always the option of an FN-FAL, or an AR-15.

And finally, the gun that strikes fear in all those armored-limousine liberals, the mighty .50 BMG rifle! For the budget-minded there’s the single-shot Armalite AR-50, a mere $2,745.00 retail, complete with “Owners Manual, Lifetime Warranty, Tylenol and Ear Plugs.” But no ammo. Or for those who have earned a really good living exploited the downtrodden workers, there’s the semi-auto Barrett Model 82A1, a mere $7,300 retail, and the “weapon of choice” of criminals across these United States. Just ask the good Senator.

Well, there are just a few ideas for you. Now, go forth and shop! The recovery of the economy rests on your shoulders!

Reprinted Without Permission of the Author

Mostly because I have no idea how to locate him.

Back in 2001 I wrote on a site that no longer exists, Themestream.com. C. Dodd Harris of Ipse Dixit was also a contributor. It was, sort of, the largest joint blog going, with neatly subdivided topics. The thing that surprised me (and in retrospect probably shouldn’t have) was the volume of really high-quality writing. There are a lot of intelligent people out there who just need an outlet, it seems. Anyway, I archived quite a bit of the stuff I found over there, and I ran across this piece this morning while looking for something else. I liked it enough then to save it, so I thought you too might enjoy it. The author is John M. Bennett. Mr. Bennett, if you’d like me to yank it, drop me a note.

Picknicking for Peace

by John M. Bennett, Feb. 2, 2001

Because the tone of political discourse in this nation has become rather hateful, I decided to ask two friends, one very liberal, the other very conservative, to join me for a quiet lunch in the country. I thought a peaceful setting and the sociability of sharing food would help us discuss our differences with civility.

We found a pretty spot near a stream that had very little trash along the banks. An old sofa and a pile of tires nearby were overgrown by vines, so the splendor of nature was virtually unspoiled. Leslie, the liberal, and Conrad, the conservative, followed me toward a large willow tree whose trunk had been elaborately decorated with primitive engravings and paintings. “Why don’t we set up under this tree?” I said.

“I’m a lesbian!” Leslie exclaimed.

“I ain’t no homo!” Conrad replied. They glared at each other.

“Maybe we should have some food before we start the discussion,” I suggested.

Leslie glared at me now. “Do you have a problem with my sexuality?” she demanded.

“No, I was just wondering where we should sit.”

“I ain’t no homo!” Conrad said, who was also glaring at me.

“Okay, I guess that’s all straightened out. Should we sit under this tree?”

Leslie punched me in the shoulder. “It’s none of your business how I express my sexuality, and your homophobia is interfering with my happiness!

Conrad took a few steps away from me and reached under his jacket. “You one of them homophobiacs?”

“Easy, Conrad. I’m just trying to figure out where we should eat. Should we take a vote?”

“Why bother?” Leslie said. “You two men have already decided, and Conrad has a gun. My rights have been violated before I even had a chance.” She fell to the grass and began sobbing.

Nobody had a better location to suggest, so I spread a blanket next to Leslie and brought out the food. Since Conrad and Leslie seemed a little touchy, I decided to serve them. When they had their sandwiches, potato salad, and chips, I went to the ice chest for drinks. I noticed that Leslie had pulled out a calculator and was furiously calculating.

“How many potato chips did Conrad get?” she asked me.

“I didn’t count them, Leslie. Would you like some more chips? And would you rather have a Coke or iced tea?”

“I want to know how many potato chips the men got!”

“Okay. Conrad, count your chips, would you please? Coke or iced tea?”

Conrad didn’t answer. He was staring at something in the tree. “Be right back,” he said. He ran off to his truck, ran back with a rifle. “There’s a crow up there.”

“Uh, that’s kind of a big rifle for crow, isn’t it?”

“Thirty-aught-six,” he agreed. “It’ll splash a crow from here to kingdom come.” He looked away from the tree to give me an Eastwood squint. “You trying to say I can’t own a gun?”

“Not at all. Just seems kind of heavy for shooting crows at a picnic. Besides, there are some houses over that way.” I pointed to a neighborhood across the stream.

He didn’t quite aim the gun directly at me. “You can have my gun—”

“Easy, Conrad, I don’t want to pry your cold dead fingers off of anything, I was just saying—”

Leslie punched me in the shoulder again. “You know why people like you want to shoot crows?”

“But I’m not shooting any crows.”

“Shut up! You want to shoot crows because they’re black. You can’t get away with shooting black men and raping black women, so you kill crows as a symbol of your hatred.”

“But I don’t hate black people. I don’t even hate crows. I just want to be sure you have enough potato chips and something to drink.”

BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!

Leslie fell to the ground, sobbing. “You killed him, you killed him! That poor, innocent, harmless, beautiful, tolerant, gentle, wise creature of the open sky and the lofty breezes.”

I handed her a glass of tea. “It’s okay, Leslie. I think he missed.”

“It doesn’t matter! Shooting at a bird is just the same as killing a person. It’s like he killed me!”

Conrad had gone back to his truck to stow his rifle. “Conrad? Could you do me a big favor and apologize to Leslie for making her feel like you killed her?”

“I ain’t apologizing to no lesbo. And I ain’t no homo!”

“I know, Conrad, you’re a manly man with mediocre shooting skills. Still, I think it would be nice—”

Someone’s hand was in my pocket. I spun around to see that Leslie had lifted my wallet and was pulling out a twenty-dollar bill. “What are you doing?” I asked.

“I’m going to a fundraiser for the beached whales after the picnic, and I need some money.”

“But I was going to buy groceries. And I need some gas to get home.”

Leslie glared. “Gas is evil.” She took the rest of my money and handed back my wallet. “Besides, don’t you even care about the beached whales? They’re smarter than people, you know.”

“It’s not that I don’t care, I’m just not personally acquainted with this particular whale.”

“Can’t be that smart a whale,” Conrad added, “if he can’t swim well enough to miss an entire beach.”

“It’s a she, not a he!” Leslie punched me again before she continued to Conrad. “Why do you always assume that the male is the dominant one in every situation? It’s a she-whale and her baby, or it could be her and her baby if she decided to reproduce, which is entirely up to her.”

“I get it,” Conrad said. “It’s okay for a slut whale to act however she wants, but if she’s a respectable married whale that goes to church, she’s got no rights.”

“I get it,” Leslie replied. “A male whale can nail as many female whales as he wants, but if a female whale has just one partner, she’s a slut.”

We seemed to be losing the spirit of civility, so I tried to change the subject. “Conrad, did you count your potato chips yet?”

He made a fist and smashed his potato chips into a pile of chiplets. “Looks like about half a million.”

Leslie began sobbing. “I only got sixty-four. I’ve been discriminated against by more than one hundred thousand percent.” She shoved her calculator in front of my face. “See? The numbers are right there, and you can’t deny it. Besides, it’s solar-powered. I don’t believe in batteries.”

“I’m sorry, Leslie. Please take my chips. You can have my sandwich, too.”

Conrad punched me on the other shoulder. “What do you got against guns anyway? You some kind of wimp? You trying to make me feel second-class?”

“I’m sorry, Conrad. I wasn’t trying to make you feel bad. I own a gun myself, you know.”

“Is there sugar in this tea?” Leslie said, gagging. “White sugar? Do you know how they treat those poor, oppressed farmers who grow and harvest the sugar cane?

“I’m sorry, Leslie. I won’t buy any more white sugar.”

She snorted. “So you’re going to starve the sugar farmers so you can feel like you’re making a difference?”

“I’m sorry. I’ll buy more white sugar.”

Conrad punched me. “You buying that foreign sugar? What about all those poor American farmers growing American sugar who are going hungry just so you can save a few pennies?”

“I’m sorry. I’ll buy more sugar from them, too.”

Leslie punched me. “So you care more about your sweet tooth than you do about the beached whales?”

“I said I’m sorry! I’ll make some caramel and send it to the damn whales!”

They both stared at me in shock. “God,” Leslie said. “You’re just full of hate and anger, aren’t you?”

Conrad nodded. “Can’t talk to someone like you who takes everything as some kind of personal attack.”

“I’m sorry. I’ll try to be more civil. Would anyone like more potato salad? Another sandwich?”

Conrad jumped up and pointed. “Look at that. There’s an ambulance and a bunch of cops pulling up to that house. Looks like they’re taking a body out.”

“Probably some hateful, fat, white man who had a heart attack from too much white sugar,” Leslie suggested. “No great loss.”

“Probably some homo lesbo who died of homo-AIDS,” Conrad countered. “No great loss.”

I could see that several of the people gathered around the house were pointing in our direction. “Listen, friends, maybe we should be going.”

While I packed the picnic gear, Leslie calculated the effect of potato chip discrimination on her earning potential, and Conrad tossed empty beer cans from his truck into the stream. As I loaded the stuff in the car, I felt a large splat on top of my head. A crow was just flying away, cawing bitterly.

Before I could wipe it off, several police cars arrived. The officers surrounded me, guns drawn, chests puffed out for the television cameras that had followed them. “Don’t move!” their leader yelled. One of the cameramen shook his head, and the leader had to repeat himself several times before they got the sound just right. The cameraman finally nodded, and the leader continued. “You been doing some shooting around here, have you?”

“Not me. You see, Conrad was shooting at a crow—”

“With those houses nearby?”

“Yes, sir. I tried to warn him—”

“So you knew there was a danger to innocent people, and you did nothing to stop it. Is that right?”

“That’s not right! I was trying to stop him, but Leslie distracted me—”

“Ho, ho, ho! Disrespect and denial. Looks like someone’s going to spend his jail time in anger management and sensitivity training classes.”

“Disrespect and denial? But I didn’t shoot—”

“You have crow crap on your head. That’s all we need to know. Take him away!”

As I sat in the car, handcuffed, hungry, waiting for the cops to finish their interviews, Conrad tapped on the window. “Sorry you got busted, wimp. Thanks for the chips.”

A few seconds later, Leslie finished her interview, and she tapped on the window, too. “You know what your problem is? You never listen to other people. I’m going to tell the whale that you hate her.”

I couldn’t be sure, but as they drove me away, I thought I saw the reporters trying to get a statement from the crow. I was satisfied. We had definitely made progress.

It is hell being reasonable, isn’t it?

Nuke the gay baby whales for Jesus!

Crucifixion Commission to be Formed

April 11, 2004

(The gospel according to Donks)

12 Apostles Knew in Advance

Reuters, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and AP are reporting that the Romans and Jewish leaders are not responsible for Christ’s crucifixion. They claim the 12 apostles had advance warning about this in a dinner meeting they had with Jesus prior to the crucifixion. Calls are now being made for a formal comission to be formed to investigate the events leading up to that day to determine just who knew what and when they knew it. The commission’s star witness is said to be Judas who served with Jesus prior to the crucifixion

Stolen shamelessly from Curmudgeonly & Skeptical who… well, follow the links.)

UPDATE: From the comments at FreeRepublic – “Continuing investigation into the Cross: was it built by Halliburton?”


Unintended Consequences

Private industry and individual genius is what has always driven the small-arms market. The recent panty-bunching fear of the .50BMG rifle as a “weapon of war” is but one example. The .50 caliber cartridge and the M2 machinegun were the products of the individual genius of John Moses Browning, but the use of the .50 BMG round in long-range precision rifles was the brainchild of a few dedicated experimenters, brought to commercial success by Ron Barrett, and they were shot for recreation and in competition long before they were adopted by militaries as “weapons of war.”

The Geek has some excerpts that illustrate what happens when the civilian market is stifled by idiotic laws, and how detrimental it can be to our military.

Give it a read.

Write your congresscritters.

This is Why Socialism Never Really Catches On

(And this is why I read Feces Flinging Monkey. How does he find this stuff?)

The mysteries of tipping the maître d’ to get into a posh restaurant.

I’ll never have a use for the information, seeing as I consider a decent lasagne haute cuisine, and dismiss most restaurants described in the piece as serving “foo-foo food,” but the psychology behind it is as old as man.

Hmm… Maybe I will have a use for it someday. Just not at a restaurant.

Lileks Cuts to the Heart

In today’s Bleat:

Listened to Dr. Rice’s testimony today while cleaning, doing puzzles, coloring – the usual morning routine. I thought she did okay. But the 9/11 commission has changed my view of the administration. I now believe that if Al Gore had been president, he would have invaded Afghanistan right away, fortified the cockpit doors, issued an executive order that made the CIA and FBI share intel, grounded all planes the moment “chatter” started mentioning “a winged victory, like the bird of righteousness,” and subjected all young Arab males to full-body searches in airports. Pakistan would have come around to our point of view right away.

Yep.

I Pound My Head Against the Wall Because it Feels So Good When I Stop

(We now return to our original programming)

Tim Lambert and I are attempting to discuss self-defense and weapon regulation. In an odd mix of blog comments and posts that is probably hard for anybody but us (and maybe even us) to follow, this is the latest entry in that exchange. It started with this post, continued in the comment section, then that spawned this later post by Tim. I could not reply in the comment section of that post, so my response is below, here. Tim’s response to that is in the comments to that prior post. Whew! And now I’m responding here.

A bit more background: The problem here, as I see it, is that Tim and I have entirely different perspectives based on entirely different philosophies. The philosophy that I believe Tim adheres to has led to the disarmament of UK citizens under the mistaken belief that it would make them safer. I believe, as I stated earlier, that Tim and other proponents of that philosophy suffer from cognitive dissonance – an inability to recognize the error of the philosophy, as most accurately described by Steven Den Beste:

When someone tries to use a strategy which is dictated by their ideology, and that strategy doesn’t seem to work, then they are caught in something of a cognitive bind. If they acknowledge the failure of the strategy, then they would be forced to question their ideology. If questioning the ideology is unthinkable, then the only possible conclusion is that the strategy failed because it wasn’t executed sufficiently well. They respond by turning up the power, rather than by considering alternatives. (This is sometimes referred to as “escalation of failure”.)

Because of Tim’s cognitive dissonance he is forced to dismiss or ignore anything that doesn’t fit the philosophy. Thus, when I ask the question,

And how is a woman to exercise her presumed inherent right to lethal force against a rapist if she’s denied any means with which to do so?

three times, he finally replies with:

Restrictions on weapons might make self defence more difficult in some cases, but they can also make it easier in others.

Isn’t that comforting?

The first question Tim asked me in his latest post was:

(Y)ou asserted that the statement “self defense in the UK is illegal” is “practically true”. If you acknowledge that you can defend yourself without a weapon, then surely you must concede that your statement is false?

Let’s see what I’ve said about that question so far, in chronological order:

The law there seems to be one based on “proportional response” – e.g., stabbing someone who isn’t armed with a weapon is “excessive force.” So is bashing them over the head with a brick. There are many of these cases, and they’ve lead us to the conclusion that private citizens in Britain had best not resist attack, or face prosecution for usurping the authority of the State in its monopoly on the legitimate use of force.

The appearance is that, as I said, the government guards jealously the legitimate use of force. Proles should not overstep their restrictions.

Do you find the law prohibiting honest citizens from carrying any weapon suitable for self-defense, while the law ostensibly allows you a right to defend yourself somewhat schizophrenic?

The jury is supposed to take your “instinctive” response to being attacked into account, but if you use a weapon in your defense you’re immediately assumed to have had it for offensive purposes. Am I misunderstanding the (il)logic here?

Tim, the law prevents anyone from carrying anything for self-defense. A knife, pepper spray, a club, a taser, anything.

As the law has (apparently) been interpreted (and I believe it was intended) the presumption on the part of the Government is that if you carry a weapon, any weapon, you are guilty of the intent to do criminal bodily harm. Yet the law gives lip service to the concept of the right to self-defense.

Is there or is there not a right to self-defense? English law says there is, yet its laws concerning weapons make self-defense, for all intents and purposes, a lost cause. The facts are that possessing, much less using anything that the State considers a weapon makes you a criminal in its eyes. It does not seem to legally recognize any legitimate use of force by any non-government actor.

There are no “offensive” weapons. They’re just weapons. Or tools. (A hammer makes quite an effective weapon. So, apparently, does a walking stick .) A knife can be a tool or a weapon as well. Pepper spray or mace can be used to disable a victim as well as an attacker . Same for a taser, or an axe handle. So too for firearms.

It’s not the weapon that carries the intent – it’s the user. Yet the UK government has seen fit to tell the entire population “You’re not trustworthy. You cannot be trusted with any weapon, because of the chance you might use it to inflict bodily harm upon another.”

At the same time, it tells them that they have a right to inflict bodily harm upon another in defense of themselves – all the way up to homicide in the case of rape – but that the infliction of harm must be restricted to a reasonable level.

Who gets to decide what was reasonable? A JURY. Which means, if you use force effectively in your own defense, especially if you used any weapon in that effective defense, you stand a very good chance of being charged with excessive use of force, and placed on trial. After all, seems to go the reasoning, if you were able to effectively defend yourself, if your attacker is wounded and you are not, or if your injuries are less serious than his, you weren’t in real danger and/or you de facto used excessive force.

That high risk of prosecution effectively chills the right to self defense. Who wants to risk court? Just the costs, not to mention the possibility of conviction? The inability to have or use a weapon in your defense also chills the right. If you are overmatched, what use is resistance?

I’ve said that, for those so willing (a firearm is) the BEST TOOL FOR THE JOB (of self-defense). But as Mr. Lindsay demonstrates, it’s hardly the “only way.” Your conclusion that my “argument is logically flawed” is based on your fallacious understanding of my argument.

That’s seven times I’ve tried to make my position perfectly clear. Here’s what Tim has said in response:

I think your arguments would be more persuasive if you could actually come up with a case that supports the position that self defence is not allowed.

Kevin, you seem to be equating self defence with guns. This is doubly wrong. First, guns are far more frequently used for offensive purposes than for defensive ones. And second, guns are not the only means for self defence.

To explicitly answer your question: No, I do not find the law to be schizophrenic. Restrictions on offensive weapons do not make it impossible to defend yourself.

Restrictions on weapons might make self defence more difficult in some cases, but they can also make it easier in others (because the attacker does not have a weapon). The net effect could be to make it easier or harder on average. It certainly isn’t to make it impossible.

Even if there are some rare situations where a gun is the only possible means for defence, it does not make the statement that “self defense in the UK is illegal”, since that is a general statement describing all situations.
(Emphasis mine.)

Despite learning that Lindsay had chased the robber out of his home and stabbed him in the back four times, in the comments and on his blog Baker continued to insist that self defence was illegal in practice in the UK. His argument was that England’s “laws concerning weapons make self-defense, for all intents and purposes, a lost cause”. His argument is badly wrong for two reasons.

1. Using a weapon is not the only way to defend yourself.
2. If the law disarms attackers, then it can make self defence possible where it would have been impossible if the attacker was armed.

Baker’s response on the first point is to focus on cases where a weapon might actually be the only way to defend yourself…

And finally,

(Y)ou asserted that the statement “self defense in the UK is illegal” is “practically true”. If you acknowledge that you can defend yourself without a weapon, then surely you must concede that your statement is false?

We’re using the same words, but apparently speaking different languages.

So here you go, Tim: English law says, as I quoted:

Section 3 of the Criminal Law Act 1967 provides that a person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime, and the question of reasonableness is subject to the amplifications contained in such cases as R v McInnes and R v. Palmer. It has been held that “if a jury thought that in a moment of unexpected anguish a person attacked had done only what he honestly and instinctively thought was necessary, that would be most potent evidence that only reasonable defensive action had been taken.”

and

One of the most important limitations on the use of weapons is of course that they cannot be carried or used to injure other people.

so weaponless self-defense is not statutorily illegal. Self-defense involving any weapon is legally risky. In both cases excessive force is to be judged by a jury. I think I said that several times. I think I was pretty clear about it, but if not, there it is in black and white.

Tim’s second objection is:

You claimed that what I was implying was: “Honest citizens should never use a weapon in self defense, and the government is honestly doing everything it can to disarm everybody so that you can successfully defend yourself in your unarmed state.” I never said anything like “Honest citizens should never use a weapon in self defense”. Kindly refrain from stuffing words into my mouth. I do not appreciate it.

What I said, verbatim, in response to your assertion of If the law disarms attackers, then it can make self defence possible where it would have been impossible if the attacker was armed.” was:

Nice of you to admit that last point. Big “if” there at the start, though. Because what you are saying here by implication is “Honest citizens should never use a weapon in self defense, and the government is honestly doing everything it can to disarm everybody so that you can successfully defend yourself in your unarmed state.”

Tim, that’s how it translates to me. If that’s incorrect, please explain, in detail, exactly what you did mean.

Tim continues:

You continue to insist that “laws against weapons have essentially no effect on the access to weapons by criminals”, claiming that the English experience somehow illustrated this. You then write extensively about the violent crime rate England. But this is not even relevant to your claim, since it includes violence done without weapons.

Not relevant? Why? As I pointed out – REPEATEDLY – by disarming the law abiding it leaves them essentially defenseless against violent criminals, armed or not. All the criminal need be is physically superior to his victim, or (should he desire) the criminal can be armed, knowing almost as a certainty that his victim won’t be. If criminals need not fear effective resistance then they will be emboldened. I pointed to England’s experience with violent crime over the course of the 20th Century, noting that the real upswing in violent crime began just shortly after passage of the law that made illlegal carry of any weapon for defense on the grounds that there are no “defensive” weapons for the general public, only “offensive” weapons by definition. Yet those same weapons, when held by government officials, are considered “defensive.” I gave a hypothetical example of weaponless self-defense, and then added two conditions that made weaponless self-defense even more hazardous. Tim did not comment.

Tim continues:

In 2000, England had about 4,000 with-gun robberies while the US had 170,000 After allowing for six times as many people in the US, the rate is still seven times higher in the US. This hardly proves that the laws made the difference, but the evidence is not on your side.

To me that isn’t as important as the fact that England, according to the British crime survey, suffered 276,000 robberies in 2000, and the U.S. about 408,000. With six times England’s population, that makes the English rate four times the American rate. Tim evidently considers the higher rate of robberies involving firearms to be worse than an overall much higher rate of robberies period. I do not concur. That is apparently the disconnect between our two philosophies – as long as the perpetrator doesn’t have a gun it seems, the crime committed has less importance. I don’t want to be the victim of a robbery, period, and I think that government policies that “restrict” my chances of successfully defending myself against them are immoral.

Now, I suppose, we’ll start trading statistics again?

Tim concludes:

I also note that you did not comment on the Kleck quote I gave. Do you concede that the “overmotivated criminal” is a fallacy as Kleck argues?

The pertinent part of the Kleck quote was this:

Like noncriminals, however, criminals do many things that are casually or only weakly motivated.

(I)t is not all impossible for crime prevention efforts to be achieved among the more weakly or temporarily motivated criminals who make up the large part of the active offender population.

Specifically as it comes to guns, Kleck is correct, but by disarming the citizenry and by making it legally risky to use weapons in self defense, it is safer for “weakly or temporarily motivated criminals” to commit crimes against other people. They don’t need a gun to be successful. Physical superiority, a knife, a steel bar, or even a broken bottle is all that is needed.

An here’s the pernicious part, what I believe is the unintended consequence of a philosophy that considers all weapons in the hands of non-government agents to be “offensive weapons,” one that does not recognize that citizens can carry a weapon with defensive intent: Those “weakly or temporarily motivated criminals” learn that violent crime is lucrative, easy, and low-risk, and with each new success they become emboldened to do it again. This draws others to do it as well, just as the lucrative illicit drug industry constantly attracts new “talent.” Easy money. Some percentage of those “weakly or temporarily motivated criminals” become professional or at least semi-professional at it, and are willing to carry the tools of the profession.

This is a long-term trend, and I believe the history of violent crime in England illustrates this. The rising level of violent crime in England as a result of the failure of the philosophy that “all weapons are offensive” forced the government to become ever more restrictive towards the general citizenry without affecting the ever rising levels of violent crime. In combination with other failed social policies, particularly social welfare and criminal justice reform, disarming the general public has resulted in a polity with the highest level of violent crime in the developed world.

Still unwilling to admit the error of the philosophy, the government continues its congnitive dissonance and “escalates the failure” by announcing a desire to end of “double-jeopardy” protections and trial by jury for some crimes. Another incremental step toward what would be, for all intents and purposes, a police state, not a free nation.

All of this justified, apparently, by a fear of firearms.

UPDATE, 5/2:

I made an error in this post, which Tim pointed out:

Oh, and you blew the comparison of robbery rates. You have compared the survey measured robbery rate in England with the police reported robbery rate in the US. The police reported number in England is 78,000 (it’s right next to the 276,000 figure you reported) that’s roughly the same rate as you get with 408,000 robberies in the US once you adjust for population.

He was quite correct. I was wrong. I have apologized and clarified my position in a later post.

Hudson Was Wrong

(If you’re just coming to this site and reading top to bottom, skip down one post to figure out what’s going on.)

Well about three full days have passed since I asked that important question, and it’s drawn a few comments and a bit of attention. So what have I learned?

I’ve learned that the people who make up my audience are a damned pessimistic bunch, for one. The ratio of comments like this:

“Okay, I’m thoroughly depressed now. Have we passed the point of no return? Are we on the verge of another Dark Age?” – Sarah

“Worse than any other aspect of our situation is the sense of hopelessness that pervades even the most ardent devotees of freedom.” – Francis Porretto

“Like you, I am practically out of ideas. Every day we get the choice between slavery and rebellion, and so far, most folks ok with slavery.” – Robert

“The main difference between Bush and Kerry, WRT civil liberties, is what size boot they use when tromping in one place, vs. some other.” – jed

“Answers? I don’t have answers. I think I’m probably in the same boat as most of you. If there was a real fight, I’d fight, but in the meantime, what? Just watch?” – mostlycajun

“At the moment, I don’t intend to have children, and I don’t have any ideas. About the only thing I’m certain of is now is not the time to give up drinking.” – LabRat

“This is why I’m religious: there is no hope for freedom anywhere in the world any longer.” – Sydney Carton

“We’re on the road to totalitarianism right now, and voting the same people into office is not going to turn us from that path. At best it will slow us down slightly, though I’m no longer convinced of that.” – Dennis

“What is the answer? Wait for the collapse of Social Security to bring down the beast and then be ready to fight off every other …ist to restore this country to the intent of the original founders.” – Ken

to comments like this:

“Though it may seem Pollyanna-ish, I believe that we have reached or are nearing the nadir of the current trough, and the upward side of the catenary approaches.” – Mark Phillip Alger

“The side for liberty is winning.” – Doug

was about, oh, 10:1.

The one thing almost all the pessimists had in common was – no answers. Fûz, author of WeckUpToThees! suggests that we start committing civil disobedience when the campaign finance laws start kicking in, restricting freedom of speech. Not “Big Media” – us. You and me. But then Michael Williams of Master of None points out that we live in a system of lots of laws, but only random enforcement – just enough to put fear into others and keep us in our places. (Think RIAA enforcement.) Fûz might be right – but I doubt it.

The most striking thing I found was apathy. This site has received about 1,400 hits since I posted “An Important Question.” It drew 47 comments (not including my replies) from 22 respondents. I posted a link to the essay at AR15.com – surely a hotbed of the perennially pissed-off – which garnered 613 views, but only seventeen responses (two optimistic, the rest pessimistic). That’s a signal of apathy, to me anyway. Interested enough to read, but not interested enough to bitch.

And that defines the problem, as I see it. The vast majority are simply apathetic.

ap•a•thy
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek apatheia, from apathEs without feeling, from a- + pathos emotion
1 : lack of feeling or emotion : IMPASSIVENESS
2 : lack of interest or concern : INDIFFERENCE

We are, as a nation, impassive. We are indifferent. As I said in my letter to Rev. Sensing,

The overwhelming majority of the populace, I believe, is ignorant and apathetic. They might sense the loss of their freedoms, dimly, but they don’t know and they don’t want to know.

We here in the blogosphere who are (supposedly) active and connected, have no consensus other than “Every day we get the choice between slavery and rebellion, and so far, most folks (are) ok with slavery.”

Well I’m not, but it does appear that way.

As I wrote a long time ago, I believe that a “right” is what a majority of the population of the society I live in believes it is. This is pragmatically true, as opposed to ideally true. Ideally “rights” are concepts shared by all and revered, but practically that’s untrue. You can stand before a magistrate and demand your rights, but in most societies throughout history your understanding of your rights wouldn’t keep your head attached to your body, or in the 20th Century stop the bullet that ended your protests. I’m engaged in a discussion right now with Tim Lambert of Deltoid who professes to believe in a “right” to self-defense, while defending a philosophy that allows complete disarmament of the law abiding populace against agressors. Tim is hardly an exception in this world, now or historically.

A respect for rights isn’t natural, it’s learned – and when we stop teaching our children about our rights, a reverence for them; when we neglect to educate the incoming generation as to what those rights are and why they’re important and why they should be defended even against the seemingly most minor infringement, then apathy becomes entropy and our rights dissolve toward chaos. When we give the rights the Founders believed to be essential only lip service, suddenly we get all kinds of new “rights.” A “right” to abortion. (Don’t write letters.) A “right” to “freedom from gun violence.” A “right” to gay marriage. A “right” to government provided health care. A “right” to… well you get the idea. And all those “rights” are eventually given equal weight – essentially none at all when the rubber meets the road.

In 1776 a group of men, excellently educated (whether self-taught or formally) and with a new but common understanding of the rights of humanity, decided they’d had enough and stood up to be counted. They pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor and took up arms against an overwhelming enemy. These few men led many more who were angry but not so committed. Another Mencken quote (the man had so many): “It doesn’t take a majority to make a rebellion; it takes only a few determined leaders and a sound cause.” We can’t define a cause, though. Nor an enemy. “We have met the enemy and he is us.” – Walt Kelly.

Francis Porretto also said this:

Violent revolution is a nasty prospect. Alongside the unpleasantness of it, there is also this: most revolutions in history have intensified tyranny, rather than ameliorated it. Alternatives are certainly welcome.

Civil disobedience is less nasty for everyone but the disobedient. Though most people don’t have the courage for it regardless of how valid it appears, in every generation there are a few who’ll put their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor on the line to defend some principle of justice. But successful civil disobedience has a list of necessary preconditions that can be hard to meet. The carnage among the courageous few is enough to make one think…and back away.

I’m beginning to repeat myself, I think.

Commenter Brian wrote:

I’m coming to the conclusion that it’s better to live outlaw like I did when I was a kid than to bother acting like I’m a citizen. The law seems to do nothing beneficial, and I’ve always been willing to break it.

There’s no need to respect the laws that don’t respect you, or fear the gov- just embrace freedom and accept that you COULD be imprisoned or killed, but you’ll live freer than almost anyone before that happens. It’s worth it, to me.

That echoes Francis in his next paragraph:

There is a third way, and it can be applied to many of the usurpations of power that occur in American society: passive resistance, sometimes also called passive non-compliance. It is much less risky to its practitioners than civil disobedience, and it doesn’t usually set the streets awash with blood. More, it has a good record of success, although when it wins, it doesn’t always win everything one has hoped for.

Francis then goes on to expound on what it takes to make passive resistance a successful strategy for manipulation of the government. But Brian, I think, has the right of it – screw strategy. Embrace freedom and accept that you could be imprisoned or killed and live free while you can. Teach your children about those ideal rights, and live them. Don’t respect those laws that don’t respect you, and be willing to pay the consequences of violating them if you get caught.

So my life, my fortune, and my sacred honor stand ready to be sacrificed in the defense of my rights and the rights of those I love as I understand them. I am a citizen of this nation as much or as little as it protects and defends those rights under which it was founded, not as they are (mis)understood today. I will obey those laws with which I agree, follow those laws I am unwilling to suffer the penalty for, and I will disobey those laws I find egregious. This may mean that, at some time in the future, the State may decide to “selectively enforce” itself on me to make an example. At that time and at that place I will decide how to respond, for that choice is mine and always will be. In the mean time, I will agitate for those rights, making sure those in power remember that they swore oaths to defend them whether they understood them or not. I will continue trying to educate others so that they, too, understand what it is they are losing, what they are allowing others to throw away, and so they will hopefully not choose slavery.

That’s what I owe my grandchildren.

Hudson was wrong, the game wasn’t over. He died anyway – but he died fighting, not lying down, defending himself and his people. Like Hicks said, sometimes I want to take off and nuke the place from orbit – it’s the only way to be sure – but I’m just a grunt and don’t get to make those decisions.

UPDATE 4/8 9:30AM: The Geek responds.

UPDATE, 10:25: From the comments, Dano writes:

I’m not sure I agree with your “apathy” conclusion, Kevin — at least, not as applied to the readers of your post(s). The nation, overall, being apathetic (“fat, dumb and happy” comes to mind) I’ll go along with. You asked for “ideas” and as I’m in the Pessimistic Camp, I haven’t got any. Rather than comment and say “I don’t know what to do,” I merely read. It’s going to get worse before it gets better (if it does) and I don’t expect to see it get better in my lifetime. I’d love to be wrong.

My response:

Dano:

Read the Geek’s piece linked at the bottom of the post. I stand by the apathy conclusion. Being pessimistic and using that as an excuse to just stand by and watch as the structure collapses is apathy. “I can’t do anything!” is not an excuse not to try.

Stand up. Be heard. Make your opinions known. Write your congresscritters. Write letters to the editors when peices are published you don’t agree with, and when they publish stuff you do. Call or write your TV news outlets when they do something objectionable or praiseworthy. Start a blog.

If we’re going down anyway, let’s all go down fighting every inch of the way. Fvck ’em – WE’RE AMERICANS! We don’t back away from a fight.

And who knows?

The horse might learn to sing.